I think that's true. That's been one of the tensions in the Mountain States Conference between the urban churches on the Front Range and the more rural congregations.Ken wrote: ↑Mon May 19, 2025 3:44 pmI suspect the answer is that most congregations are more or less a reflection of their communities.
A MCUSA church in Portland OR or Denver CO is going to have a more liberal membership than one in Belleville PA or rural Kansas. And their voting patterns probably more or less reflect those of the communities and precincts in which they are located.
What is the nature of Conservatism
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"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."
-- Isaiah 10:1-2
-- Isaiah 10:1-2
Re: What is the nature of Conservatism
I understand that denominations don't vote. I'm trying to get info about individuals.
Of Anabaptists in the US and Canada who are ok with women pastors... What rough percentage guestimate do you have for...
A. those who are ok with Christians practicing a LGBTQ lifestyle?
B. those who are big on social justice and weaker on verbally proclaiming the Gospel and at least a bit wobbly on scriptural authority?
C. those who lean left, aren't caught up in social justice agendas, and "mostly just care about specific bread and butter issues like healthcare or education"?
D. those who consider themselves conservative, whether that be political, ideological, or religious conservatism?
Of Anabaptists in the US and Canada who are ok with women pastors... What rough percentage guestimate do you have for...
A. those who are ok with Christians practicing a LGBTQ lifestyle?
B. those who are big on social justice and weaker on verbally proclaiming the Gospel and at least a bit wobbly on scriptural authority?
C. those who lean left, aren't caught up in social justice agendas, and "mostly just care about specific bread and butter issues like healthcare or education"?
D. those who consider themselves conservative, whether that be political, ideological, or religious conservatism?
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A wee little man can’t say, I’m sorry. A big man owns his mistakes and apologizes.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
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Re: What is the nature of Conservatism
What exactly is it that you are trying to uncover? Or what is your thesis? That acceptance of women pastors is some sort of slippery slope away from other beliefs that conservative Anabaptists hold dear?Ernie wrote: ↑Mon May 19, 2025 9:39 pm I understand that denominations don't vote. I'm trying to get info about individuals.
Of Anabaptists in the US and Canada who are ok with women pastors... What rough percentage guestimate do you have for...
A. those who are ok with Christians practicing a LGBTQ lifestyle?
B. those who are big on social justice and weaker on verbally proclaiming the Gospel and at least a bit wobbly on scriptural authority?
C. those who lean left, aren't caught up in social justice agendas, and "mostly just care about specific bread and butter issues like healthcare or education"?
D. those who consider themselves conservative, whether that be political, ideological, or religious conservatism?
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
Re: What is the nature of Conservatism
I have no thesis nor agenda. I'm a curious person, a homegrown sociologist who likes to learn.Ken wrote: ↑Mon May 19, 2025 11:39 pmWhat exactly is it that you are trying to uncover? Or what is your thesis? That acceptance of women pastors is some sort of slippery slope away from other beliefs that conservative Anabaptists hold dear?Ernie wrote: ↑Mon May 19, 2025 9:39 pm I understand that denominations don't vote. I'm trying to get info about individuals.
Of Anabaptists in the US and Canada who are ok with women pastors... What rough percentage guestimate do you have for...
A. those who are ok with Christians practicing a LGBTQ lifestyle?
B. those who are big on social justice and weaker on verbally proclaiming the Gospel and at least a bit wobbly on scriptural authority?
C. those who lean left, aren't caught up in social justice agendas, and "mostly just care about specific bread and butter issues like healthcare or education"?
D. those who consider themselves conservative, whether that be political, ideological, or religious conservatism?
In real life, I regularly interact with some people who don't answer my questions because they assume I want to know something different from what I asked. I need to assure them that the only reason I am asking the question is because I am a curious person. Once they understand this, they are glad to answer my question.
God made us all different and I figure there are times and places in which the world maybe needs people who answer a different question than what was asked. Perhaps when they ask a question, they normally have an agenda behind their question so they assume everyone else does as well.
But when I ask a question, I am just trying to learn. If I have an agenda or a hypothesis I am working on, I generally lay that out when I ask the question.
In real life, I am energized when interacting with people who are also curious. This past weekend a single lady from China who is not a believer was plying me with all sorts of questions about parenting, and how mature, kind, helpful, and social teenagers are raised. She doesn't have a family and isn't hoping to have one at this point, but she is just a curious kind of person who wonders what makes the world go around. I connect with such people.
I am not familiar with current mainstream/mainline Anabaptist life and thought among those who are ok with women pastors. I'm wondering what the percentages look like among this particular demographic. Once I get some information, I may have more questions, or I may conclude that there is nothing here worth noting and will be ready to move on to learning something else.
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A wee little man can’t say, I’m sorry. A big man owns his mistakes and apologizes.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.
A wee little man trusts himself and his own discernment. A big man is humble enough to know that he needs the counsel and input of others.