praying for resolution. 1) You need to ask the Ukrainian people about that...or most folks in most countries of the world for that matter. In general, I think people choose some measure of self-determination for themselves and their families (like you were arguing a few weeks ago on behalf of the truckers).
2) You assume a lot when you claim the Ukrainian revolution was staged comrad Джошуа...no doubt the West was an encourager in the Orange revolution, but the Ukrainian people were the ones on the street who drove the movement.Was it important when the West staged a colour revolution?
3) Who are you talking to here...you are arguing with no one on this forum that I know of.Why wasn’t “Iraqi sovereignty” important?
2) First, you need to ask the Ukrainian people that...or most folks in most countries of the world for that matter. Second, I ask again, who are you talking to here that is a "Kingdom Christian" "advocating in favor of killing."Should a kingdom Christian be focused on “Ukrainian sovereignty”, particularly to the point of advocating in favour of killing?
But I wouldn't support the truckers taking up arms and shooting the RCMP. Would you?Dan Z wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:57 am1) You need to ask the Ukrainian people about that...or most folks in most countries of the world for that matter. In general, I think people choose some measure of self-determination for themselves and their families (like you were arguing a few weeks ago on behalf of the truckers).
Then why is the U.S. calling for "regime change" in Russia now? America has a notorious history of interfering in other country's elections and calling for "regime change". Most people (who aren't Western aligned) agree Ukraine was the same story during the Orange Revolution.2) You assume a lot when you claim the Ukrainian revolution was staged comrad Джошуа...no doubt the West was an encourager in the Orange revolution, but the Ukrainian people were the ones on the street who drove the movement.
2) First, you need to ask the Ukrainian people that...or most folks in most countries of the world for that matter. Second, I ask again, who are you talking to here that is a "Kingdom Christian" "advocating in favor of killing."Should a kingdom Christian be focused on “Ukrainian sovereignty”, particularly to the point of advocating in favour of killing?
Ukraine is not America. Ukraine is not Russia. You refuse to acknowledge the existence of Ukraine as a country with its own values and culture and language and right to exist. Why is that?Josh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:32 am If I were Russian, and living in Russia, I'd be talking about the right and wrong things for Russia to do. But we aren't. We need to talk about what is right and wrong for America to do and the West to do. And the right thing to do is to stop this unwinnable conflict.
Surely peace is more important than invading Ukraine and laying waste to the country, cutting off supplies from the cities, and bombarding residential areas, schools, and hospitals. Maybe Russia should not have invaded. Maybe they should withdraw. Maybe they should avoid hits on civilian targets. But you don't seem to be mentioning that. Why is that?
I don't even know what "winning" means in this war. For either side.
Ukraine has been part of Russia for nearly all of its history.
If I did I'd probably be fleeing to Poland like everyone else, since Ukraine has mandatory military service for all males age 18-60 and has made it illegal not to serve in the armed forces. All the Mennonite converts I know there have had to escape the country to deal with this.You do not live in Ukraine
The simple answer is to quit going to war, quit fighting, and quit killing. If one side in a conflict won't do this, it behooves the other side to do so - particularly when there is zero chance they can win. When it comes to military conflicts, "might makes right" is indeed how things work.Again, I have no idea how to advise the kingdoms of this world here. But I'm pretty sure I don't have a simple answer like you do.
Why aren't you calling for the U.S. to give up its right to exist and give back its land to the indigenous peoples, Britain, France, Mexico, and Russia?Josh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:04 pmUkraine has been part of Russia for nearly all of its history.
I'm asking why people like you feel like "Ukrainian sovereignty" is so important, yet the sovereignty of other countries with far higher death tolls from Western invasions doesn't seem to be very relevant. Think Pakistan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine. Why don't these get the same attention? Or anything even close to it?
If the U.K. launched an invasion (or Mexico) and it was obvious the U.S. was going to lose the fight, I would definitely support surrendering. Particularly if they were going to conscript every man age 18-60 to fight to the death.ohio jones wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 2:42 pm Why aren't you calling for the U.S. to give up its right to exist and give back its land to the indigenous peoples, Britain, France, Mexico, and Russia?
i admit, i’m respectful but not trusting of U.S. leaders nor U.S. mainstream press. thus, not anxious to jump on their bandwagons.Called the “American War” in Vietnam (or, in full, the “War Against the Americans to Save the Nation”), the war was also part of a larger regional conflict (see Indochina wars) and a manifestation of the Cold War between the United States and the Soviet Union and their respective allies.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Vietnam-War
Vietnam War | Facts, Summary, Years, Timeline, Casualties, Combatants, & Facts | Britannica
