Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.

Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

Yes
19
63%
No
11
37%
 
Total votes: 30

Soloist

Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

Post by Soloist »

Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:19 pm What the recent advice is, at least as far as I have received it from my now former employer:

It spreads via aerosolized particles. Therefore anything but a properly fitted N-95 is almost useless. A fit test would be necessary.
6 feet is not protective, as it fills the room rapidly.
While the current vaccines are far better than nothing, they should not be counted on for protection. See N-95 above.

Frankly, I would not be able to wear one, and never could for more than a few minutes.
Out of my jobs, none of them have cared that I have a beard and would fail a fit test during the pandemic… it was only last year that Aveanna actually fit tested me which I failed of course. They permitted me to test my P100 which due to good design actually passed. That being said, protocols at least I was familiar with stated I would need a PAPR…
My first job they had 1 positive covid patient and they decided we needed to put a fresh N-95 on when we went in and throw it away after. Our door into the patient room was a curtain. They also made us use isolation gowns…
Our poor patient was dying alone and couldn’t understand why everything changed… why they couldn’t sit with their housemates or have the Bible read to them…
So there I was outside of this “curtain” feeling stupid removing all my protective equipment and according to management “hold your breath” while I put on my one week reused N95 they wanted treated with Lysol until they listened to the research I dug up…. Disaster…
Management wasn’t medical and while they tried, it really was performative.

One patient refused to let me work unless I put a cloth mask on.
My very next patient refused to let me work unless I took it off.
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Valerie

Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

Post by Valerie »

Judas Maccabeus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 11:19 pm What the recent advice is, at least as far as I have received it from my now former employer:

It spreads via aerosolized particles. Therefore anything but a properly fitted N-95 is almost useless. A fit test would be necessary.
6 feet is not protective, as it fills the room rapidly.
While the current vaccines are far better than nothing, they should not be counted on for protection. See N-95 above.

Frankly, I would not be able to wear one, and never could for more than a few minutes.

So that is where it stands. During the pandemic, I was measuring the distance between student desks with a tape measure, making sure it was six feet. Trying to do patient care with a cloth mask that was useless. Trying to eventually teach with a mask. Doing all sorts of stuff to mitigate surface contamination that simply was not there. In the quest to “do something “ they literally ripped the heart out of many of the small businesses around us.

It was a real pandemic. The response was less than competent.
From the very beginning (almost) they showed aerosolized particles floating all through the air- to show us we were literally walking through it everywhere so when they announced the 6 foot distancing rule, it made no sense to me if it was indeed everywhere throughout the air. Then they showed videos of how the particles were to small for masks to prevent either breathing them in, or out- so neither the social distancing or forced masks seemed to agree with the science regarding this particular virus but it sure helped fear spread quickly.

Also, the complete dismissal of hydroxychloriquine & Ivermectin which has been effectively used by some doctors until they made it a crime to, was very telling. And censorship for anything disagreeing with CDC.
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Grace
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Ernie

Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

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I found this article to be a more neutral report on the hearing. It puts Fauci's comments in context rather than using them as click bait.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... takeaways/
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Grace
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Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

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I think these comments say it all.

“It’s been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bulls–t and they get vaccinated,” Fauci said in an October 2020 audiobook recording of his biography, “Fauci,” written by New Yorker journalist Michael Specter.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/03/us-news/t ... d-hearing/
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Ken
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Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

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Grace wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:45 am I think these comments say it all.

“It’s been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bulls–t and they get vaccinated,” Fauci said in an October 2020 audiobook recording of his biography, “Fauci,” written by New Yorker journalist Michael Specter.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/03/us-news/t ... d-hearing/
That is 100% true is it not?

Vaccinations serve two overlapping functions. First, to keep individual people from getting sick. Second, to reduce the spread of disease within a community. On other words, it protects all of us when more people get vaccinated. Especially people who are immunocompromised for whom vaccines are not going to work. Which is about 3% of the US population or around 11 million of your fellow Americans.

Incentivizing people to get vaccinated is literally part of the job of the CDC.
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Josh

Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

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Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:52 pm
Grace wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:45 am I think these comments say it all.

“It’s been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bulls–t and they get vaccinated,” Fauci said in an October 2020 audiobook recording of his biography, “Fauci,” written by New Yorker journalist Michael Specter.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/03/us-news/t ... d-hearing/
That is 100% true is it not?

Vaccinations serve two overlapping functions. First, to keep individual people from getting sick. Second, to reduce the spread of disease within a community. On other words, it protects all of us when more people get vaccinated. Especially people who are immunocompromised for whom vaccines are not going to work. Which is about 3% of the US population or around 11 million of your fellow Americans.

Incentivizing people to get vaccinated is literally part of the job of the CDC.
Threatening people with no job and no livelihood if they don’t get vaccinated is straight up coercion, and isn’t the role of the federal government to force people to stick needles in their arm for a dangerous, unproven “vaccine” that gives young people heart attacks.
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Judas Maccabeus

Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

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Folks, the smoking gun has been located:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... 20c215d6a3

A man made Clevege site on a spike protein. Who would have expected it.

Sorry, I know it is behind a paywall.
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Judas Maccabeus

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Ken
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Re: Have you had a COVID-19 vaccination?

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Josh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:28 pm
Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:52 pm
Grace wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:45 am I think these comments say it all.

“It’s been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bulls–t and they get vaccinated,” Fauci said in an October 2020 audiobook recording of his biography, “Fauci,” written by New Yorker journalist Michael Specter.

https://nypost.com/2024/06/03/us-news/t ... d-hearing/
That is 100% true is it not?

Vaccinations serve two overlapping functions. First, to keep individual people from getting sick. Second, to reduce the spread of disease within a community. On other words, it protects all of us when more people get vaccinated. Especially people who are immunocompromised for whom vaccines are not going to work. Which is about 3% of the US population or around 11 million of your fellow Americans.

Incentivizing people to get vaccinated is literally part of the job of the CDC.
Threatening people with no job and no livelihood if they don’t get vaccinated is straight up coercion, and isn’t the role of the federal government to force people to stick needles in their arm for a dangerous, unproven “vaccine” that gives young people heart attacks.
Of course it is coercion. Employers in this country have a right to determine health and safety rules in their places of employment. Most employment is at-will. Employers can coerce you to do all manner of things if you want to keep your job. Don't like it? Work someplace else.

And to label it a dangerous, unproven, vaccine that gives young people heart attacks only shows that you aren't serious.
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