Coronavirus Outbreak

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
Ken
Posts: 21863
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:02 am
Location: Washington State
Affiliation: former MCUSA

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by Ken »

The first big study out of South Africa on the Omicron variant’s relative severity is out, and the initial news appears to be good: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 21268116v1
Omicron infections were associated with an 80% reduction in hospitalization risk relative to concurrent Delta infections, and a 70% reduction in risk of severe disease compared to previous Delta wave infections.
Now all this no doubt comes with all sorts of caveats regarding how different populations vary a lot in regard to various risk factors, and their associated vulnerability to this variant. Nor is it clear at this point how much the striking reduction in observed severity is a product of acquired pre-existing immunity in the subject population, either via vaccines or previous infection, as opposed to an inherently less severe variant. Also, if you get one-fifth as many severe cases per infection but five times as many infections because of the variant’s extreme transmissibility, that’s kind of a wash statistically, in terms of impacts on the health care system.

But as a mostly bad year comes to a close, it looks like some reasonably good news.
0 x
A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
mike

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by mike »

Ken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:04 pm But as a mostly bad year comes to a close, it looks like some reasonably good news.
We are in far better shape than we were last year this time.

7-day average daily new cases
12/21/2020: 220,978
12/21/2021: 155,384

7-day average daily new deaths
12/21/2020: 2,405
12/21/2021: 1,263

That's 30% fewer cases per day of the virus and what matters far more, 47% fewer deaths from the virus. And while cases are trending up for a winter surge, it's not at all like last year's. Deaths are relatively flat, about the same per day as they were in early November.
0 x
mike

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by mike »

On another positive note, it's nice to have a bit of a break from the political World War 3 between Trump and Biden.
0 x
Ken
Posts: 21863
Joined: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:02 am
Location: Washington State
Affiliation: former MCUSA

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by Ken »

mike wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:41 am
Ken wrote: ↑Tue Dec 21, 2021 9:04 pm But as a mostly bad year comes to a close, it looks like some reasonably good news.
We are in far better shape than we were last year this time.

7-day average daily new cases
12/21/2020: 220,978
12/21/2021: 155,384

7-day average daily new deaths
12/21/2020: 2,405
12/21/2021: 1,263

That's 30% fewer cases per day of the virus and what matters far more, 47% fewer deaths from the virus. And while cases are trending up for a winter surge, it's not at all like last year's. Deaths are relatively flat, about the same per day as they were in early November.
On the news today they were projecting the omicron surge will peak at 400,000 to 500,000 per day by late January. But hopefully hospitalizations and deaths will stay much flatter. And hopefully the other side of the peak will see a steeper drop as well.
1 x
A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
User avatar
Robert
Site Janitor
Posts: 12078
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:16 pm
Affiliation: Anabaptist

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by Robert »

https://scitechdaily.com/two-common-ove ... y-testing/
A pair of over-the-counter compounds has been found in preliminary tests to inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19, University of Florida Health researchers have found.

The combination includes diphenhydramine, an antihistamine used for allergy symptoms. When paired with lactoferrin, a protein found in cow and human milk, the compounds were found to hinder the SARS-CoV-2 virus during tests in monkey cells and human lung cells.

The findings by David A. Ostrov, Ph.D., an immunologist and associate professor in the UF College of Medicine’s department of pathology, immunology and laboratory medicine and his colleagues, are published in the journal Pathogens.

“We found out why certain drugs are active against the virus that causes COVID-19. Then, we found an antiviral combination that can be effective, economical, and has a long history of safety,” Ostrov said.

Due to his earlier research with colleagues at UF, Ostrov already knew diphenhydramine was potentially effective against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The latest discovery has its roots in a routine meeting of scientists with the Global Virus Network’s COVID-19 task force. One researcher presented unpublished data on federally approved compounds that inhibit SARS-CoV-2 activity, including lactoferrin.

Like diphenhydramine, lactoferrin is available without a prescription. Ostrov thought about pairing it with diphenhydramine and ran with the idea. In lab tests on human and monkey cells, the combination was particularly potent: Individually, the two compounds each inhibited SARS-CoV-2 virus replication by about 30%. Together, they reduced virus replication by 99%.
More effective than the vaccines and much cheaper.

And always the disclaimer.
While the findings are encouraging, Ostrov cautions against self-medicating with either diphenhydramine or lactoferrin as a COVID-19 prevention or treatment. The type of lactoferrin used in the research differs slightly from the type that is commonly available to consumers, he noted. Lactoferrin is commonly used as a supplement to treat stomach and intestinal ulcers, among other uses.
If I get Covid, I will try the over the counter stuff anyway. Why not?
0 x
Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
nett
Posts: 1953
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:22 pm
Affiliation: Midwest Fellowship

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by nett »

Robert wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:51 am https://scitechdaily.com/two-common-ove ... y-testing/
A pair of over-the-counter compounds has been found in preliminary tests to inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19, University of Florida Health researchers have found.

The combination includes diphenhydramine, an antihistamine used for allergy symptoms. When paired with lactoferrin, a protein found in cow and human milk, the compounds were found to hinder the SARS-CoV-2 virus during tests in monkey cells and human lung cells.

The findings by David A. Ostrov, Ph.D., an immunologist and associate professor in the UF College of Medicine’s department of pathology, immunology and laboratory medicine and his colleagues, are published in the journal Pathogens.

“We found out why certain drugs are active against the virus that causes COVID-19. Then, we found an antiviral combination that can be effective, economical, and has a long history of safety,” Ostrov said.

Due to his earlier research with colleagues at UF, Ostrov already knew diphenhydramine was potentially effective against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The latest discovery has its roots in a routine meeting of scientists with the Global Virus Network’s COVID-19 task force. One researcher presented unpublished data on federally approved compounds that inhibit SARS-CoV-2 activity, including lactoferrin.

Like diphenhydramine, lactoferrin is available without a prescription. Ostrov thought about pairing it with diphenhydramine and ran with the idea. In lab tests on human and monkey cells, the combination was particularly potent: Individually, the two compounds each inhibited SARS-CoV-2 virus replication by about 30%. Together, they reduced virus replication by 99%.
More effective than the vaccines and much cheaper.

And always the disclaimer.
While the findings are encouraging, Ostrov cautions against self-medicating with either diphenhydramine or lactoferrin as a COVID-19 prevention or treatment. The type of lactoferrin used in the research differs slightly from the type that is commonly available to consumers, he noted. Lactoferrin is commonly used as a supplement to treat stomach and intestinal ulcers, among other uses.
If I get Covid, I will try the over the counter stuff anyway. Why not?
There are lot of options that work, almost all of them are a combination of drugs and have excellent results from doctors who have treated 1000s of patients. Early treatment has been completely neglected by the mainstream, and probably the reason for at least 85% of the deaths (according to Mccullough)
1 x
Ernie

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by Ernie »

nett wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:39 am There are lot of options that work, almost all of them are a combination of drugs and have excellent results from doctors who have treated 1000s of patients. Early treatment has been completely neglected by the mainstream, and probably the reason for at least 85% of the deaths (according to Mccullough)
So what is your recommendation at this point if someone gets Covid?
0 x
User avatar
Robert
Site Janitor
Posts: 12078
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:16 pm
Affiliation: Anabaptist

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by Robert »

Due to his earlier research with colleagues at UF, Ostrov already knew diphenhydramine was potentially effective against the SARS-CoV-2 virus.
Diphenhydramine is Benadryl. If it helps 30% on its own, then why would it not be recommended for treatment just on its own. If it reduces viral replication by 30% that is much better than nothing. Again, they ignore any early treatments and force everyone to get a vaccine that we can see does not protect perfectly either.

I have generic Benadryl already. I am ordering lactoferrin online. I will also look at some GNC stores as I happen upon them.

I would get some HCQ and Ivermectin, but both are prescription only. So I will get these others and have on hand.
0 x
Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
nett
Posts: 1953
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:22 pm
Affiliation: Midwest Fellowship

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by nett »

Ernie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 11:36 am
nett wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:39 am There are lot of options that work, almost all of them are a combination of drugs and have excellent results from doctors who have treated 1000s of patients. Early treatment has been completely neglected by the mainstream, and probably the reason for at least 85% of the deaths (according to Mccullough)
So what is your recommendation at this point if someone gets Covid?
it depends on how early it's caught, and where it's progressed to. There are large variety of treatments.

The simplest one is a nasal and mouth wash with iodine, H ₂O ₂, and water (or bleach for the mouth), as quickly as possible after any possible exposure.

This video has the more complex situations.

0 x
User avatar
Robert
Site Janitor
Posts: 12078
Joined: Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:16 pm
Affiliation: Anabaptist

Re: Coronavirus Outbreak

Post by Robert »

https://www.dailywire.com/news/majority ... esearchers
A new study says the Omicron variant could infect some 140 million Americans by March, but the majority of people who contract the variant might be asymptomatic.

“We are expecting an enormous surge in infections … so, an enormous spread of Omicron,” said Dr. Chris Murray, director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington, according to USA Today.

“Total infections in the U.S. we forecast are going from about 40 percent of the U.S. having been infected so far, to having in the next two to three months, 60 percent of the U.S. getting infected with Omicron,” he said.

But the researchers at the institute said that while the variant appears to be more contagious than the Delta variant, it does not appear to be as strong. They predict Omicron will lead to fewer deaths and hospitalizations. “Omicron’s hospitalization rate is about 90 to 96 percent lower than Delta, which rampaged through much of the US in August,” the Daily Mail reported on Thursday.

What’s more, up to 90% of those who contract the variant will never know they have Omicron, said the Mail.
But the report included one caveat. “The less good news is that while Omicron seems milder overall, the UKHSA has found it is not necessarily mild enough to avoid large numbers of hospitalizations. The experts have found evidence that for those who do become severely ill, there is still a high chance of hospitalization and death.”
0 x
Try hard not to offend. Try harder not to be offended.
I think I am funnier than I really am.
Post Reply