Iryna Zarutska / 2002-2025

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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In this case, Iryna Zarutska, Robby and Lindsey pretty much agree.

9:00 min mark: Iryna Zarutska / Ian M Gaudreau, artist

i appreciate Robby notes that what make’s Iryna’s murder memorable is that camera footage records it.
This type of murder is far too common, most are not recorded (or remembered) at all.
What impresses me is how the recordings show so clearly, there was no provocation, no resistance, no self-defense.
In my view, this happens, in this way, more often than most believe. Most presume some altercation. No.

The camera shows innocence. This touches a lot of people who’ve lost loved ones to unprovoked violence.

THE HILL / RISING / Iryna Zarutska Mural To be REMOVED; Marco Rubio URGES NATO ‘Reexamination’ / 26min



NBC / Mural of slain Ukrainian refugee that sparked backlash to be removed from Providence building / -3min

Rhode Island:
It has been the talk of the city for days, and now a verdict has been reached:
the mural of Iryna Zarutska in Providence is coming down.

What began as a tribute to honor the slain Ukrainian refugee quickly became a political flashpoint, drawing criticism from local leaders and the community alike.

Artist Ian Gaudreau, speaking to NBC 10 News on Monday afternoon, confirmed the news that the artwork is going to be removed.

"A lot of people voiced their frustrations, and voices were heard, and the work is coming down as a reaction to that," Gaudreau said.

The controversy also brought clarity regarding the mural's financial backing. When asked about the source of the funding, Gaudreau confirmed the involvement of high-profile donors.

"The mural was funded by a nonprofit organization that was mostly funded by Elon Musk, that is a fact," Gaudreau said.

i’m sorry the mural was to be on a bar building. :-|

i’m not a proponent of such monuments; i appreciate the intent, i’m sorry for the reason it’s being removed.
guilty consciences?

No matter what’s done/not done, it’s a troubling situation.
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Her memory is inconvenient for a lot of people.
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JohnH wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:05 pm Her memory is inconvenient for a lot of people.
And another case of hypocrisy.
George Floyd murals were painted and so it’s hypocritical for the left to make this decision. They’re always so obvious to those who are willing to admit it.
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Valerie wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 8:30 am
JohnH wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2026 9:05 pm Her memory is inconvenient for a lot of people.
And another case of hypocrisy.
George Floyd murals were painted and so it’s hypocritical for the left to make this decision. They’re always so obvious to those who are willing to admit it.

The striking difference (in my view) is, IZ (and so many others, like myself at 29) -
had no criminal history, had never been jailed, was not in a police encounter, was not resisting arrest, was not resisting criminal assault - was not a strong adult male, even if she’d been doing any of these things.

Ambush assaults happen to strong adult males, too, sometimes to those armed.

How did “community values” become about putting criminal, anti-social, violent, destructive behaviors,
above health+safety of the legal, law-abiding population?**

IZ is a poster child for the MANY victims scattered across the country - not because she’s unique! -
because there is benefit of taped recordings that remove all doubt of any sort of provocation on her part.

i wasn’t killed at 29, but from his first contact (from behind) i immediately feared quick death, i got away, i don’t know how.
decades later, the terror hasn’t left me. It’s “managed terror” i’m no longer crippled by it as i was the first 10 years after.

Watching the IZ tapes is like walking through that long-ago incident. i’m sure MANY experience the same.

Years later, in college, our daughter experienced worse than i, and survived.

i am terrified for my grdaughter, now 18. [who isn’t terrified for their children and grchildren?] who?!

bill cosby’s son was murdered by the side of a highway - changing a tire!
children are shot dead standing at bus stops.

the IZ tapes make it real. as JH might say, “real inconvenient”. :-|

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**i’m pretty sure these are the results of academia gone wrong, organized political blocs+lobbies.
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The perpetrator himself was a severely mentally ill person whose family wanted either treatment or prison for. However certain political factions benefit from having people like him loose on the streets and fight hard to keep it that way. They are, in essence, abusing both the victims and the perpetrators.
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JohnH wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 12:36 pm The perpetrator himself was a severely mentally ill person whose family wanted either treatment or prison for. However certain political factions benefit from having people like him loose on the streets and fight hard to keep it that way.

They are, in essence, abusing both the victims and the perpetrators.
.. milking the Public Treasury to do so. .. ..
hopefully, this is now being addressed. at long last. expect a bumpy ride as the cash cow dries up.

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Funny how the political winds twist.
I can imagine the two sides arguing for the opposite side of the narrative had bounced just a little bit differently.
For example, I can imagine the right having no sympathy for this murder, if the victim was a Mexican immigrant. And I can see the left arguing the travesty of it all, if the murderer would have been a white male.

I find neither sides principles very consistent, instead I find them both unattractively based on reaction and identity, and narrative.
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R7ehr wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:48 pm Funny how the political winds twist.
I can imagine the two sides arguing for the opposite side of the narrative had bounced just a little bit differently.
For example, I can imagine the right having no sympathy for this murder, if the victim was a Mexican immigrant. And I can see the left arguing the travesty of it all, if the murderer would have been a white male.

I find neither sides principles very consistent, instead I find them both unattractively based on reaction and identity, and narrative.
The politics of it, yes, it’s likely.

The lived human experience, no. Quite a common experience. Often with no reporting or representation, at all.
To repeat, IZ’s tragedy is NOT uncommon, at all, similar happens to the unborn, babies, children, teens, adults, the elderly, the disabled, female+male. Ambush+execute happens to armed police officers.

Of all, who carries the greatest political currency? Presently, criminal perps, of all description.

DEFENSE LAW is where a lot of money is made. And airtime devoted.
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R7ehr wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:48 pm Funny how the political winds twist.
I can imagine the two sides arguing for the opposite side of the narrative had bounced just a little bit differently.
For example, I can imagine the right having no sympathy for this murder, if the victim was a Mexican immigrant. And I can see the left arguing the travesty of it all, if the murderer would have been a white male.

I find neither sides principles very consistent, instead I find them both unattractively based on reaction and identity, and narrative.
I think that makes a lot of assumption that this was about race or something. It wasn't and isn't.

Statistically, it is true that certain races are over-represented in offenders and other races are over-represented in victims but I think we can all have the maturity to look past that.
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JohnH wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 3:05 pm
R7ehr wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2026 2:48 pm Funny how the political winds twist.
I can imagine the two sides arguing for the opposite side of the narrative had bounced just a little bit differently.
For example, I can imagine the right having no sympathy for this murder, if the victim was a Mexican immigrant. And I can see the left arguing the travesty of it all, if the murderer would have been a white male.

I find neither sides principles very consistent, instead I find them both unattractively based on reaction and identity, and narrative.
I think that makes a lot of assumption that this was about race or something. It wasn't and isn't.

Statistically, it is true that certain races are over-represented in offenders and other races are over-represented in victims but I think we can all have the maturity to look past that.
Some assumptions about race, immigration, and politics, yes.
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