Soloist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:45 pm
Let me ask you a question, do you trust everyone on Menno to accurately report data?
No, I don't. In general, I think the scientific community is much better at accurately reporting and digesting data than the average person on a forum. Especially for simple measures on a large scale. I am reporting numbers that I think I have reason to trust, where the numbers are likely to be more accurate and the math is simple.
When numbers can be murky, that's usually the best thing to do in research.
Soloist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:45 pm
Let me ask you a question, do you trust everyone on Menno to accurately report data?
No, I don't. In general, I think the scientific community is much better at accurately reporting and digesting data than the average person on a forum. Especially for simple measures on a large scale. I am reporting numbers that I think I have reason to trust, where the numbers are likely to be more accurate and the math is simple.
When numbers can be murky, that's usually the best thing to do in research.
My point is that the administration of hospitals is a wide mix of people and some hospitals are better at reporting accurate data then others. When some people report coverups by administration and get dismissed as being irrelevant... it begs the question if the data is actually accurately reporting hospitalizations of those with covid who were vaccinated prior.
Soloist wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:45 pm
Let me ask you a question, do you trust everyone on Menno to accurately report data?
No, I don't. In general, I think the scientific community is much better at accurately reporting and digesting data than the average person on a forum. Especially for simple measures on a large scale. I am reporting numbers that I think I have reason to trust, where the numbers are likely to be more accurate and the math is simple.
When numbers can be murky, that's usually the best thing to do in research.
The info collected for those graphs is not reported by the scientific community. It's reported by a bunch of people probably very similar in general to a cross section of the average forum users.
On Friday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled to remove a mask mandate for school children put into place by the Wolf administration.
The court ruled that the mask mandate is not valid because it was imposed by Democratic Governor Tom Wolf's acting health secretary without legal authorization, according to ABC 6.
"The practical impact of the decision will depend on which schools and school districts impose their own masking requirements," ABC 6 wrote.
The state Supreme Court justices upheld a lower-court ruling that the acting state health secretary Alison Beam, did not possess the authority to require masks, did not follow state legislation regarding enacting regulations, and acted without a required existing disaster emergency declared by the governor in place.
The lower-court found Pennsylvania's disease control law does not give health secretaries "the blanket authority to create new rules and regulations out of whole cloth, provided they are related in some way to the control of disease or can otherwise be characterized as disease control measures."
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On Friday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled to remove a mask mandate for school children put into place by the Wolf administration.
The court ruled that the mask mandate is not valid because it was imposed by Democratic Governor Tom Wolf's acting health secretary without legal authorization, according to ABC 6.
"The practical impact of the decision will depend on which schools and school districts impose their own masking requirements," ABC 6 wrote.
The state Supreme Court justices upheld a lower-court ruling that the acting state health secretary Alison Beam, did not possess the authority to require masks, did not follow state legislation regarding enacting regulations, and acted without a required existing disaster emergency declared by the governor in place.
The lower-court found Pennsylvania's disease control law does not give health secretaries "the blanket authority to create new rules and regulations out of whole cloth, provided they are related in some way to the control of disease or can otherwise be characterized as disease control measures."
This actually surprised me. The PA Supreme Court isn't exactly known for being willing to take a stand against governmental over-reach.
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D) said that he will not reinstate a statewide mask requirement because the coronavirus "emergency is over" and pointed out that residents had ample opportunity to get vaccinated.
In a Friday interview with Colorado Matters, Polis said he favors encouraging vaccinations over state mask mandates and emphasized that public health officials should not be ordering people to wear a face covering.
"The emergency is over. You know, public health [officials] don’t get to tell people what to wear; that’s just not their job," Polis said. "Public health [officials] would say to always wear a mask because it decreases flu and decreases [other airborne illnesses]. But that’s not something that you require; you don’t tell people what to wear."
The governor's office said in a statement after the interview that he was explaining his opposition to state mask mandates but believed that local governments "can and should put disease reduction protocols in place based off their disease levels and community support for those policies."
Polis highlighted that the majority of people who either die or are hospitalized because of COVID are unvaccinated and that residents have had more than enough time to decide whether they receive their vaccines.
"Everybody had more than enough opportunity to get vaccinated," Polis said during Friday's interview. "Hopefully, it's been at your pharmacy, your grocery store, a bus near you, [or at] big events. At this point, if you haven't been vaccinated, it's really your own darn fault."
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As a cashier in extremely busy drigstore ( which also carries groceries and everything but the kitchen sink as well) I've noticed something this cold flu season.
Last year I noticed I was not selling cold and flu medications like all the years previously where I sold it a great deal constantly throughout the day. That's cold flu season people were masking and socially distancing. Also many people were staying home, and a lot of older people were having their children shop for them. Mask mandate in Ohio was over on June 6th.
This cold and flu season I am back to selling lots of Cold and flu medications lots of cough drops etc. I'm also hearing it in the customer's voice and coughing etc-
I believed the scientists and virologists that said the coronavirus would not be prevented by the mask from spreading-not sure what to conclude from personal observation whatever we were doing last cold and flu season seem to help cut down on colds and flu. However it did not stop the spread of covid.
A lot of people are voluntarily wearing masks in my area in the store. It seems we have colds, flu, and a recent spike in covid-
The Supreme Court on Monday refused to block New York’s requirement that health care workers be vaccinated against the coronavirus even when they cite religious objections.
As is often the court’s practice in rulings on emergency applications, its unsigned order included no reasoning. But Justice Neil M. Gorsuch filed a 14-page dissent saying that the majority had betrayed the court’s commitment to religious liberty.
In his dissent on Monday in the case from New York, Justice Gorsuch wrote that the practical consequences of the court’s decision would be grave.
“Thousands of New York health care workers face the loss of their jobs and eligibility for unemployment benefits,” he wrote.
“These applicants are not ‘anti-vaxxers’ who object to all vaccines,” Justice Gorsuch added. “Instead, the applicants explain, they cannot receive a Covid-19 vaccine because their religion teaches them to oppose abortion in any form, and because each of the currently available vaccines has depended upon abortion-derived fetal cell lines in its production or testing.”
“The Free Exercise Clause protects not only the right to hold unpopular religious beliefs inwardly and secretly,” he wrote. “It protects the right to live out those beliefs publicly.”
In an emergency application asking the Supreme Court to intercede, the health care workers’ lawyers wrote that the requirement “imposes an unconscionable choice on New York health care workers: abandon their faith or lose their careers and their best means to provide for their families.”
Barbara D. Underwood, New York’s solicitor general, responded that the state did not allow a religious exemption for its longstanding requirements for measles and rubella. The medical exemption for the vaccination requirement, she added, was “tightly constrained in both scope and duration,” making very few people eligible for it.
Consistency ruined these claims. If this was challenged back with Measles and Rubella then they might have had a leg to stand on. I would personally say if someone had a religious objection to fetal cell derived vaccines they would have left a while back. That being said, perhaps some came to their convictions more recently and they will either compromise, move to a state and facility favorable to them or find a new career.
I don’t know how to put this in a way that will not make me sound flippant: No one cares. Literally speaking, I know that isn’t true, because if it were, the articles wouldn’t be commissioned. But outside the world inhabited by the professional and managerial classes in a handful of major metropolitan areas, many, if not most, Americans are leading their lives as if COVID is over, and they have been for a long while.
I don’t know how to put this in a way that will not make me sound flippant: No one cares. Literally speaking, I know that isn’t true, because if it were, the articles wouldn’t be commissioned. But outside the world inhabited by the professional and managerial classes in a handful of major metropolitan areas, many, if not most, Americans are leading their lives as if COVID is over, and they have been for a long while.
