Poll: Personal Coronavirus Permanent Impact

[temporal1]

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appleman:
Of course. Any responsible business plans for a certain amount of sick leave being taken.

But you cannot plan for a pandemic. That is a whole different level.

Among my worst thoughts is that “lawmakers” will attempt to make sweeping changes ($$$) based on this one event. i do not have confidence they are up to the task.

i hope this event will be thought of in ways as we prepare for other natural disasters.
i dread huge investments in preemptive actions, because, there is no indication the next pandemic will look anything like this one. i dread the idea of stockpiling huge supplies of items needed for this pandemic, knowing the SHELF LIFE of most items is limited. plus, technology changes, what is stockpiled today may be obsolete, even illegal to use in future.

i believe obsolescence is a fact of life.
“forever” laws ignore it. then, they are difficult to remove.

(i think) what is needed is to realize LIFE IS UNCERTAIN, be ready to adapt, be constant in prayer.
we will have fire+floods, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, pandemics.

In the past recognized as “Acts of God.”

[barnhart]

Personal status update: NYC schools are now closed indefinitely. Our church school follows the public school recommendations so our children will be home for the foreseeable future.

[HondurasKeiser]

The Holy Kiss is right out.

This reads like something out of a Monty Python sketch.

[Josh]

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appleman:
Of course. Any responsible business plans for a certain amount of sick leave being taken.

But you cannot plan for a pandemic. That is a whole different level.

Among my worst thoughts is that “lawmakers” will attempt to make sweeping changes ($$$) based on this one event. i do not have confidence they are up to the task.

If we still have lawmakers acting like politicians in a year, I'll be happy, because amongst my worst thoughts are things much, much worse than that.

[Szdfan]

Going to work during a pandemic because your job has an inadequate leave policy makes going to work a lot more exciting.

[Valerie]

It is really easy in theory Josh. It is much more difficult in real life. We do address abuse issues but we need to be very careful. Often you must look for patterns over a period of time. You cannot assume abuse simply because people are missing a few days of work now and then . They may actually be doing the responsible thing and you must start out with that mindset.
The problem is that when abuse does take place it is your responsible workers that take the brunt of it because they must fill in the gaps. Or it starts to reflect on the level of service to your customers.
Anybody that thinks it is easy has never actually done it. Of that I am sure.

The average person needs to miss work about 10 days a year for doctor appointments, season flu/colds, or caring for a family member with any of the above.

So, if employees aren’t being given 2 weeks a year of sick leave, or missing work - they’re coming into work when sick.

Large businesses have HR departments that monitor this, because business continuity is important to them. To combat “abuse”, simply give employees sick leave. If they use 3 consecutive days, require a doctor note (anyone sick that long should seek medical attention).

Staffing levels should be planned based on how often humans are too sick to work, or need to care for family who is sick. I can’t see how any rational person would argue otherwise.

Manager at the store I work in, requires a dr. note for calling off sick ONE day. Therefore, people come in sick. Many are part time & some don't have medical insurance. They don't want to spend the money on a doctor when they know they aren't THAT sick, but too sick to come in and work around the public (i.e. as cashiers where elderly shop). Sometimes, they come in coughing and sneezing until customers call & complain- then they are SENT home, and don't require the dr. note- manager put that in place to keep people from calling off sick, when they were not sick.
No easy answer- usually companies only give sick leave if people are full time. We don't have sick pay at all so people come in sick. (it's why I take my vitamins )

[temporal1]

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appleman:
Of course. Any responsible business plans for a certain amount of sick leave being taken.

But you cannot plan for a pandemic. That is a whole different level.

Among my worst thoughts is that “lawmakers” will attempt to make sweeping changes ($$$) based on this one event. i do not have confidence they are up to the task.

If we still have lawmakers acting like politicians in a year, I'll be happy, because amongst my worst thoughts are things much, much worse than that.

you took my words to appleman out of context.

but, even the very worst case scenario for this virus is not the end of the world.
people will survive, and the world may be better for it.

the Dark Ages were followed by the Renaissance.
life went on, even in the Middle Ages, with so much suffering and loss. i’m sure, for many, it was hell, and they may not have been able to see anything else.

i would be happy for today’s politicians to experience a taste of fear of God.
i believe it’s possible.

[Josh]

Going to work during a pandemic because your job has an inadequate leave policy makes going to work a lot more exciting.

Ohio has announced no questions asked unemployment for anyone who doesn’t get paid sick leave, effective today.

I expect to see more states do this, particularly as the government has trillions of economic stimulus. They need to get cash in people’s bank accounts and keep people SPENDING.

[Josh]

It is really easy in theory Josh. It is much more difficult in real life. We do address abuse issues but we need to be very careful. Often you must look for patterns over a period of time. You cannot assume abuse simply because people are missing a few days of work now and then . They may actually be doing the responsible thing and you must start out with that mindset.
The problem is that when abuse does take place it is your responsible workers that take the brunt of it because they must fill in the gaps. Or it starts to reflect on the level of service to your customers.
Anybody that thinks it is easy has never actually done it. Of that I am sure.

The average person needs to miss work about 10 days a year for doctor appointments, season flu/colds, or caring for a family member with any of the above.

So, if employees aren’t being given 2 weeks a year of sick leave, or missing work - they’re coming into work when sick.

Large businesses have HR departments that monitor this, because business continuity is important to them. To combat “abuse”, simply give employees sick leave. If they use 3 consecutive days, require a doctor note (anyone sick that long should seek medical attention).

Staffing levels should be planned based on how often humans are too sick to work, or need to care for family who is sick. I can’t see how any rational person would argue otherwise.

Manager at the store I work in, requires a dr. note for calling off sick ONE day. Therefore, people come in sick. Many are part time & some don't have medical insurance. They don't want to spend the money on a doctor when they know they aren't THAT sick, but too sick to come in and work around the public (i.e. as cashiers where elderly shop). Sometimes, they come in coughing and sneezing until customers call & complain- then they are SENT home, and don't require the dr. note- manager put that in place to keep people from calling off sick, when they were not sick.
No easy answer- usually companies only give sick leave if people are full time. We don't have sick pay at all so people come in sick. (it's why I take my vitamins )

Your employer is in violation of the governor’s orders, and I expect to see rectified soon.

Ohio Dept of Health has said they DO NOT want employers asking employees for doctors notes and providers have been instructed not to provide them. Employers need to get their act together.

[temporal1]

Going to work during a pandemic because your job has an inadequate leave policy makes going to work a lot more exciting.

Ohio has announced no questions asked unemployment for anyone who doesn’t get paid sick leave, effective today.

I expect to see more states do this, particularly as the government has trillions of economic stimulus. They need to get cash in people’s bank accounts and keep people SPENDING.

Yes. Extraordinary measures are being taken.
Will my mortgage be put on hold for a couple of months? That would help!