Once again Josh you are egregiously wrong. This is absolutely false. I just turned around and asked my wife (who is a primary care doctor) this exact question. What she told me was the following:Josh wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:36 amYou missed my entire point Ken. It is extremely easy and untraceable to simply call your primary care doctor and tell them you got vaccinated. Then update your vaccine card at your next visit.Ken wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:32 amSome maybe. I expect most people will just get the free vaccine rather than go through all the trouble to try a forge documents. In short order we will be past the point of vaccine shortage and it will be available for free for anyone walking into a pharmacy without an appointment, just like the flu shot is every fall.Josh wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:27 pm
If this becomes common, you can expect these credentials to be widely forged, as they are already are in other places.
Right now, if someone really does want a vaccine passport, you can just call your doctor and tell them you got a vaccine. There is no national registry or tracking system. It will enter your record and your vaccine card will be filled out at your next visit. I still have my WHO care from the 1980s for vaccines I had to get as a child before I could enter the U.S. The entries were hand filled out.
The pure insanity of trying to require every human to get the COVID vaccine under threat of banishment from society needs to be thought through a little better by the likes of those on the left. Go ahead and do it - you're simply promoting the creation of an alternative society of people who don't want to be controlled every second of every day. And there is already a strong and robust anti-vaccine movement which is just chomping at the bit for something like this to happen.
I don’t actually expect a Covid passport to ever happen. I do expect proof of vaccination to be required for certain jobs and activities like cruise ship travel and some international travel. Basically activities for which there is a screening process in place anyway. You don’t board an airline or cruise ship without showing a lot of documents. Will people be able to fake it? Sure. But say for example United Airlines decides to require vaccines for all flight crews. If you are a flight attendant and decide to forge your vaccine certificate or shot record and that fact is later discovered, you’d likely be let go for fraud. Just like for any other lie you chose to put onto your job application. If you tried to enter a foreign country with forged documents you’d likely be in a world of hurt. Most customs and immigration agencies have zero sense of humor about that sort of thing.
The document won’t be a “forgery”, it will look exactly like a person who did get the aborted-fetus injection. The only way they could detect this is some kind of blood test which as of right now doesn’t exist.
First, all vaccinations that they provide themselves are automatically uploaded into the patient's electronic medical record including the identity and lot number of the vaccine in case they have to trace it later and the person administering the vaccine. These records are automatically uploaded to the state's central vaccine registry.
Second, all vaccines provided by outside pharmacies or other outside clinics are reconciled electronically through the state's medical record database. She told me that when she is in a patient's medical record and clicks on the immunization tab she can click a reconcile button and it will automatically upload any vaccinations that were electronically reported to the state by an outside pharmacy or clinic provided the patients name, DOB, etc. match. They all use and report to the same statewide database. They absolutely DO NOT simply take the patient's word for it over the phone. If the vaccination was done in another state they will accept a photograph of the immunization card and enter it manually if those different state systems do not talk to each other (apparently most do).
So in order to do what you are suggesting, you would need to falsely claim you were vaccinated out of state and then send in a digital photo of a fake CDC Covid vaccine record from that state. And all 50 states maintain centralized vaccine registries that are reconcilable between medical providers.
In fact, federal law requires all vaccine clinics that administer vaccines: "to ensure that the permanent medical record of the recipient (or a permanent office log or file) indicates the date the vaccine was administered, the vaccine manufacturer, the vaccine lot number, and the name, address, and title of the person administering the vaccine." which is now done electronically in every state. I pulled that off the CDC web site.
That is why there is a computer in front of the person who is administering your shot when you get a Covid vaccine (or the person next to them if they are working in teams.
Why do they do that? So they can avoid unnecessary duplication of vaccines if a patient forgets what they have gotten, or thinks they received one that they didn't. And also so they can track to whom a vaccine was given in case there is ever a bad batch and they need to track down all the persons to whom it was administered.
Notice all those laptop computers? That is what they are for. Even at big mass vaccination clinics at gyms and fairgrounds and such. This is a mass clinic at a convention center in PA:
Good luck finding a place to get a Covid vaccine where it is not automatically uploaded into a central state vaccine registry. You might have to go all the way to Africa to find that, and even then maybe not as they have computers too.
