Trump whisked from WHCD after shooting

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.
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PeterG wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 4:53 pm Satan must've REALLY been after Iran's leaders.
Satan loves Irans leaders because they hate Christians. Satan may win some battles but will lose the War.
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I doubt Satan loves at all. I think Valerie is using Satan as a proxy to vent her own emotions.
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Satan rather hates the leadership, which is why he conspires to get them to do evil things.
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barnhart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 7:09 pm I doubt Satan loves at all. I think Valerie is using Satan as a proxy to vent her own emotions.
There’s a saying that’s kinda cliche — You know you have made God into your image when He hates the same people you do.
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barnhart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 4:39 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 3:08 pm
barnhart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 2:38 pm
President Ford narrowly survived two assassination attempts. Was he also upsetting Satan's agenda?
Interesting. Maybe Satan hates Republican presidents.
Don't forget Reagan, McKinley and Garfield.
And Lincoln.

And JFK. Oops, he was a democrat.

Maybe the pattern is the winner of elections in years ending in 20. With a couple of exceptions like Bush.
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There are many assassination plans and attempts.
Most perps survive. Not always.

Reagan’s quick wit:

"Missed Me" - Ronald Reagan 1987 / 31sec
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barnhart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2026 7:09 pm I doubt Satan loves at all. I think Valerie is using Satan as a proxy to vent her own emotions.
I don't think anyone here is qualified to speak for Satan. And that's a good thing.

I don't think any of our political leaders are God's strategy to defeat Satan. I don't think anyone prominently featured in the Epstein files is God's choice to make America righteous. If God raises up a righteous leader, I think that leader's personal life will be righteous.
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:50 am I don't think any of our political leaders are God's strategy to defeat Satan.
The Bible explictly speaks of them as God's servants used to enact his will on earth.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 10:18 am
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:50 am I don't think any of our political leaders are God's strategy to defeat Satan.
The Bible explictly speaks of them as God's servants used to enact his will on earth.
All of them. In this case, speaking directly of Nero Caesar. I don't think the Bible promotes emperor worship, though, and I don't think it would have said that Nero Caesar was the greatest emperor in the history of emperors.

I think Christians can sometimes get off-balance on these things when we discuss politics.
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Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 10:25 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 10:18 am
Bootstrap wrote: ↑Wed Apr 29, 2026 9:50 am I don't think any of our political leaders are God's strategy to defeat Satan.
The Bible explictly speaks of them as God's servants used to enact his will on earth.
All of them. In this case, speaking directly of Nero Caesar. I don't think the Bible promotes emperor worship, though, and I don't think it would have said that Nero Caesar was the greatest emperor in the history of emperors.

I think Christians can sometimes get off-balance on these things when we discuss politics.
Right. I'm just saying that the Bible speaks of them as God's servants, so they are indeed part of God's overall strategy.

I didn't say we should engage in emperor worship - is anyone on MennoNet saying that?
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