Seattle’s (former?) Capitol Hill neighborhood

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Valerie wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:59 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 4:38 pm Sounds like Seattle is a terrible place to live.
.. Another “Summer of love”?
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Things are rough, my grdaughter is driving now. i worry about my family there. Esp her.
i’m there for months every year, i’ve seen it worsen over the years, esp after 2020, much damage done.

The politics are of the worst in the country, i believe California, Illinois, New Jersey and WA lead.

It’s beautiful country, but. There’s gotta be a better way.

Valerie, more about your news link:

KOMO NEWS / Capitol Hill / Seattle mayor defends response to rally at park, brushes off FBI investigation threat / -4min
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 8:09 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:59 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 4:38 pm Sounds like Seattle is a terrible place to live.
.. Another “Summer of love”?
https://www.christianwarriortraining.co ... at-seattle
Things are rough, my grdaughter is driving now. i worry about my family there. Esp her.
i’m there for months every year, i’ve seen it worsen over the years, esp after 2020, much damage done.

The politics are of the worst in the country, i believe California, Illinois, New Jersey and WA lead.

It’s beautiful country, but. There’s gotta be a better way.

Valerie, more about your news link:

KOMO NEWS / Capitol Hill / Seattle mayor defends response to rally at park, brushes off FBI investigation threat / -4min
Terrible!
You’re right it’s been getting worse but for some it’s like the frog in the pit of water gradually heating the poor thing doesn’t realize until it’s too late.

Interestingly, we had a meeting with an Amish custom home builder in 2021- to consider moving into his beautiful development in Holmes County. We expressed how through the whole Plandemic we appreciated Holmes even more. He told us he got a call from a father in Seattle who wanted to get his family out of there and do looking to also move to his development (which they did). I had seen the writing on the wall in CA so looked to get my children out in 1992 & moved to OH.

I am glad to hear you’re able to spend time with your family and be an influence.
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Starting in California, not staying there. Seattle is represented. :roll: They won’t “disappoint”. :roll:
Valerie wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 7:59 pm .. Another “Summer of love”?
https://www.christianwarriortraining.co ... at-seattle
i dread another 2020, this time, lots of indications it’s organized, with paid actors, making it all the worse.

i’m much in agreement with Amir, hoping Trump’s response will save lives and property.
i agree with Amir’s point, if you’re protesting peacefully, the mere presence of peacekeepers will not bother you at all.

i believe they are peacekeepers, trained, and not seeking to escalate. both police and military.
a lot of progress has been made in the decades of my lifetime. give credit where credit is due.

This is lengthy - thankfully, with time stamps!

AMIR ODOM / Why People Are Protesting ICE and Immigration Raids / -44min


TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
5:10 - LA Protest
7:18 - Media Lies
15:20 - Mexican American
17:15 - Fascism
19:05 - Angry Democrat
21:18 - ICE is Bad
23:09 - Gavin Newsom
25:38 - Hasan Piker
27:45 - Black American
29:24 - Asian American
30:35 - Kamala Harris
34:39 - Riots Not Protest
37:02 - Stolen Land
39:21 - African Immigrant
41:51 - Final Thoughts
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KOMO NEWS / Washington elected leaders suggest Trump's executive order on homelessness impractical / -5min
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Washington’s elected officials raised questions on Friday about whether the President’s Executive Order on Homelessness has any sort of practical plan for implementation.

On Thursday, President Trump issued the EO called “Ending Crime and Disorder on America’s Streets,” which calls for the reversal of federal or state judicial precedents on involuntary commitment of individuals with mental illness and suggests the Federal government would pull grants to any entity that doesn’t comply with the order.

It calls for Attorney General Pam Bondi and multiple other departments to carry out the plan to take care of 275,000 homeless people.
The first to be interviewed remarked he didn’t believe Trump “THOUGHT THROUGH” his order.
hmm. So, Seattle leaders DID think through the policies they have? Personally, i wouldn’t want to own any of that.

Toward the end, a chart reflects 79% APPROVAL of the EO. “Impressive in Seattle” :shock:
^^not sure that’s a Seattle poll.

White House / ENDING CRIME AND DISORDER ON AMERICA’S STREETS
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential ... s-streets/
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Cities and states didn't stop institutionalizing the mentally ill because of liberal politics.

They did so because of the 1975 Supreme Court case O'Connor v. Donaldson which outlawed involuntary commitment of mentally ill under most circumstances if the individual is capable of surviving safely on their own or with the help of friends and family.

So while a majority of people might agree that more mentally ill homeless people need to be institutionalized. And I would agree myself. It seems like the Supreme Court would have to reverse itself and the laws would have to change. Plus we would need to spend tens of billions of dollars building new mental institutions. Since the existing ones are already at or beyond capacity in just about every jurisdiction in the country. It isn't like there are hundreds of thousands of open beds in psychiatric hospitals just waiting to accept homeless people.
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Cities and states didn't stop institutionalizing the mentally ill because of liberal politics.
i’ve not been aware of this suggestion anywhere in my life. Jumpy, eh? :-|
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temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 3:40 pm
Cities and states didn't stop institutionalizing the mentally ill because of liberal politics.
i’ve not been aware of this suggestion anywhere in my life. Jumpy, eh? :-|
Trump, for one, has been making this suggestion for years.
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Ken wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 4:10 pm
temporal1 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 3:40 pm
Cities and states didn't stop institutionalizing the mentally ill because of liberal politics.
i’ve not been aware of this suggestion anywhere in my life. Jumpy, eh? :-|
Trump, for one, has been making this suggestion for years.
i don’t follow Trump’s blatherings around, imho, no one should.
i try to notice formal statements, White House statements, etc., policies, outcomes, responses, changes-corrections, etc.
RESULTS.

i was busy with our young family when Reagan was in office, not paying attention to politics - BUT - even i heard about closing or changes to mental health facilities, which i found disturbing from the start. i was aware Reagan was popular, i wasn’t paying attention.

Since then, i’ve heard many complaints, and i have a distant relative with schizophrenia who lives on the streets in (Everett, last i heard). It’s a nightmare. She’s lived between jails, institutions, streets. She has 2 children, now young adults, thankfully, raised by grandparents. The father is a (professional?) street person, he intentionally chooses this life, i guess he’s good at it. i think they’re married, not together. They were “raised right”. They began with the best intentions. No one was prepared for schizophrenia, her diagnosis came after 2 children. It is a disaster. The children were fortunate to have 4 dedicated grandparents.

Decades have passed. Nothing truly effective has been done, except increasing homelessness, drugs, crime.

i applaud Trump, and anyone who makes an effort.
A deacon at my family’s Seattle area church makes serving Seattle’s homeless his priority.

Even if Trump’s plan is THE WORST, it might nudge others to find better. In my view, THAT COUNTS.
Over decades, this is obviously a UNIPARTY problem. One of many.
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I thought the demise/dissolution of the state mental hospital system was a federal bill from the Kennedy era in which the feds stepped up to fund local, community based mental health facilities to replace them, which was never realized. So we closed the state lockdown facilities and replaced them with nothing.
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