The CAM scandal links and assorted other topics thread

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flyingnorm wrote:Hear the meaning of "off fall", https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/offal

I misspelled the word, offal to its original middle english spelling off fall.

Middle English and Cherman are sprisingly same, yaknow. Chakob told me so. :laugh

Yahh, ich hap datch chvetsed lang ep ich happ kenna english fashte. Smacht mich avah doch nep fiel schmaata.
Offal is a good description of what victims and others in the offender's circle have to deal with. In my experience my whole family (us siblings who were abused, my mother, and my siblings who weren't abused) had to deal with a whole bunch of offal that wasn't ours to deal with. One thing that comes to mind is that my mom should have had room to express her feelings about the situation with my father and not been made to feel that she had to be the good wife who sat beside him and supported him in court. She shouldn't have had to be the one sitting with him while he complained that he "Wouldn't be in this mess is it weren't for (my sibling's name)."
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Aurien wrote: Offal is a good description of what victims and others in the offender's circle have to deal with. In my experience my whole family (us siblings who were abused, my mother, and my siblings who weren't abused) had to deal with a whole bunch of offal that wasn't ours to deal with. One thing that comes to mind is that my mom should have had room to express her feelings about the situation with my father and not been made to feel that she had to be the good wife who sat beside him and supported him in court. She shouldn't have had to be the one sitting with him while he complained that he "Wouldn't be in this mess is it weren't for (my sibling's name)."
I am so sorry you went through this. Your poor mother! And family!
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KirkDaniel wrote:
Aurien wrote: Offal is a good description of what victims and others in the offender's circle have to deal with. In my experience my whole family (us siblings who were abused, my mother, and my siblings who weren't abused) had to deal with a whole bunch of offal that wasn't ours to deal with. One thing that comes to mind is that my mom should have had room to express her feelings about the situation with my father and not been made to feel that she had to be the good wife who sat beside him and supported him in court. She shouldn't have had to be the one sitting with him while he complained that he "Wouldn't be in this mess is it weren't for (my sibling's name)."
I am so sorry you went through this. Your poor mother! And family!
Thank you.
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Aurien wrote:
flyingnorm wrote:Hear the meaning of "off fall", https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/offal

I misspelled the word, offal to its original middle english spelling off fall.

Middle English and Cherman are sprisingly same, yaknow. Chakob told me so. :laugh

Yahh, ich hap datch chvetsed lang ep ich happ kenna english fashte. Smacht mich avah doch nep fiel schmaata.
Offal is a good description of what victims and others in the offender's circle have to deal with. In my experience my whole family (us siblings who were abused, my mother, and my siblings who weren't abused) had to deal with a whole bunch of offal that wasn't ours to deal with. One thing that comes to mind is that my mom should have had room to express her feelings about the situation with my father and not been made to feel that she had to be the good wife who sat beside him and supported him in court. She shouldn't have had to be the one sitting with him while he complained that he "Wouldn't be in this mess is it weren't for (my sibling's name)."
This is hard to imagine you going through, am so sorry, I hope that you've been healed by your heavenly Father, who does love you with a perfect love
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Valerie wrote:
Aurien wrote:
flyingnorm wrote:Hear the meaning of "off fall", https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/offal

I misspelled the word, offal to its original middle english spelling off fall.

Middle English and Cherman are sprisingly same, yaknow. Chakob told me so. :laugh

Yahh, ich hap datch chvetsed lang ep ich happ kenna english fashte. Smacht mich avah doch nep fiel schmaata.
Offal is a good description of what victims and others in the offender's circle have to deal with. In my experience my whole family (us siblings who were abused, my mother, and my siblings who weren't abused) had to deal with a whole bunch of offal that wasn't ours to deal with. One thing that comes to mind is that my mom should have had room to express her feelings about the situation with my father and not been made to feel that she had to be the good wife who sat beside him and supported him in court. She shouldn't have had to be the one sitting with him while he complained that he "Wouldn't be in this mess is it weren't for (my sibling's name)."
This is hard to imagine you going through, am so sorry, I hope that you've been healed by your heavenly Father, who does love you with a perfect love
Thank you.
I'm still working on the healing part. It's amazing how much I view God through the lens of my earthly father. It's like I know on a superficial level that God isn't like my dad, but it's hard getting that knowledge through to a deeper level.
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An e-mail I received from CAM today:
A recent development with the Haiti abuse situation is the legal settlement of the civil case against CAM in Petit Goave, Haiti. Christian Aid Ministries and the attorneys of the victims who filed the case came to terms of agreement and have settled the case out-of-court.

In past months, we have continued to respond to the needs of other victims who have come forward. To date, CAM has provided $420,000 to help with housing, funding small business startups, relocation to other places, vocational training, and restitution. Ultimately we are working to ensure that the victims of abuse will receive the help they need to live productive lives. At this time, funds to respond to the abuse situation have been taken from interest money generated from cash reserves and no funds designated for programs have been impacted.

An independent party that committed to provide emotional and spiritual support for victims had been working in-country and made some progress, but months of political unrest as well as recent COVID-19 restrictions have hindered the work. This group also intends to give training to Haitians who in turn can help their own people in dealing with abuse and addictions.

Our prayer continues to be that victims will experience healing and be whole physically, spiritually, and emotionally.



Sincerely,

The Board of Directors

Christian Aid Ministries (CAM)
ISSUED: Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 2:30 p.m
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Well.... its something. Its a step forward but how many steps back have been taken since this all surfaced?

Mixed feelings....
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:clap:
Very good! This is exactly what's been needed and wanted all along...
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"Independent party" needs to be defined by CAM. Whether this is a step forward is all in the details.

As of this morning, 204 pages on Covid-19 in three months and 201 pages in almost a year on sexual abuse in CAM and in CM churches. Which do Mennonites care more about and which can Mennonites do the most about?
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Ms. Izzie wrote:"Independent party" needs to be defined by CAM. Whether this is a step forward is all in the details.

As of this morning, 204 pages on Covid-19 in three months and 201 pages in almost a year on sexual abuse in CAM and in CM churches. Which do Mennonites care more about and which can Mennonites do the most about?
Sexual abuse is the 5-ton elephant in the room. Easy to overlook.
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