Nobel Peace Prize

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Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:32 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:28 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:13 pm Pakistan’s PM nominated him for the peace prize today. I am actually surprised at just how meaningful this “deal” is to the Arab and Muslim world.

Anything that means less war is fine by me.
he’s receiving a special reward from Israel that no one outside of Israel has ever received.
Like a yarmulke??? Where can I read up on this?
Ok, looks like President Obama received a similar award in 2013 also.
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Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:46 pm
Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:32 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:28 pm he’s receiving a special reward from Israel that no one outside of Israel has ever received.
Like a yarmulke??? Where can I read up on this?
Ok, looks like President Obama received a similar award in 2013 also.
Biden also received the Israeli Presidential Medal of Honor in 2022.

In 2012-2014 it was called the President's Medal, then was dormant until 2022. The original batch awarded under Shimon Peres was received by Kissinger, Clinton, Spielberg, and Merkel, among others including Obama.

If one has to travel to Israel to receive it in person, Valerie's statement might technically be true.
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Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:46 pm
Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:32 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:28 pm

he’s receiving a special reward from Israel that no one outside of Israel has ever received.
Like a yarmulke??? Where can I read up on this?
Ok, looks like President Obama received a similar award in 2013 also.
It's the Israeli Presidential Medal of Honor, Israel's highest civilian award.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_P ... _of_Honour
Other winners include:
  • Barak Obama
  • Bill Clinton
  • Elie Wiesel
  • Henry Kissenger
  • Steven Spielberg
  • Angela Merkel
  • Giorgio Napolitano
  • Miloš Zeman
  • Joe Biden
  • Frank Lowy
And a bunch of other names I don't recognize. It's a prestigious award, but it's not true that no one outside of Israel has ever received it, unless Joe Biden is secretly Israeli.
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:05 pm
Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:46 pm
Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:32 pm
Like a yarmulke??? Where can I read up on this?
Ok, looks like President Obama received a similar award in 2013 also.
Biden also received the Israeli Presidential Medal of Honor in 2022.

In 2012-2014 it was called the President's Medal, then was dormant until 2022. The original batch awarded under Shimon Peres was received by Kissinger, Clinton, Spielberg, and Merkel, among others including Obama.

If one has to travel to Israel to receive it in person, Valerie's statement might technically be true.
This particular award was never given to anyone outside of Israel. The leader of Pakistan is very emotional as he thanked President Trump for all he’s done. He hoped he would have a long career and doing what he’s doing. I could tell President Trump was caught off guard and humbled.
Actually, that had nothing to do with President Trump traveling to Israel, as you know, today was about the hostages being freed and able to come home and many other things of importance in the mid east, not about awards.
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Szdfan wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:08 pm
Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:46 pm
Southerner wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:32 pm

Like a yarmulke??? Where can I read up on this?
Ok, looks like President Obama received a similar award in 2013 also.
It's the Israeli Presidential Medal of Honor, Israel's highest civilian award.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_P ... _of_Honour
Other winners include:
  • Barak Obama
  • Bill Clinton
  • Elie Wiesel
  • Henry Kissenger
  • Steven Spielberg
  • Angela Merkel
  • Giorgio Napolitano
  • Miloš Zeman
  • Joe Biden
  • Frank Lowy
And a bunch of other names I don't recognize. It's a prestigious award, but it's not true that no one outside of Israel has ever received it, unless Joe Biden is secretly Israeli.
I have to go back and hear which particular award Netanyahu said he would be giving president Trump, he absolutely said it’s never been given to anyone outside of Israel, so I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing doesn’t matter really I’m just thankful that he got a bunch of idiots Riding around on bicycles joining anti-ice in the nude, and the caliber of people that are recognizing Trump today. What a contrast! I seriously doubt you’ve been watching all the speeches given today so there’s probably a lot you are missing.
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Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:39 pm I have to go back and hear which particular award Netanyahu said he would be giving president Trump, he absolutely said it’s never been given to anyone outside of Israel, so I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing ...
Okay, there were apparently two awards being talked about in the Knesset today, hence the confusion. The Presidential Medal of Honor mentioned upthread is awarded by the President, Isaac Herzog. Trump appears to definitely be getting this one.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-870273

The Israel Prize is a separate thing.
Mediaite wrote:Addressing the Knesset, while Trump sat beside him, Netanyahu paid tribute to the president as Israel’s “best friend” and hailed the peace deal as a breakthrough when he gave nod to the nomination for the nation’s highest domestic award.

“Mr. President, thank you for all you have done for us. I have submitted your nomination to be the first non-Israeli recipient of the Israel Prize, Israel’s highest award,” the prime minister announced.
It seems this is a nomination, not the actual award. That requires the unanimous consent of an appointed committee and would be conferred on Independence Day, May 14. There's precedent for some controversy in the process. It's usually given to an Israeli citizen with occasional exceptions for a long-term resident, so this would indeed be a break with tradition.
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And here's the deal, the QPQ. Donald and Bibi seem to be making the most of the opportunity to flatter each other.
Politico wrote:On a day of extraordinary moments, one of the most jaw-dropping saw Trump — during his hour-long address to the Knesset in Jerusalem — turning to Israel’s President Isaac Herzog to advocate he pardon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on long-standing fraud and bribery charges.

“Give him a pardon, come on,” Trump said, flashing a grin and pointing to Netanyahu, who he dubbed “one of the greatest” wartime leaders.
Some of Netanyahu’s political foes publicly argued during the war that the Israeli leader wanted to prolong the conflict to delay any legal reckoning in a case set to resume once the guns fall silent.
“A pardon is granted only when the defendant admits guilt and Bibi will never do that,” [former PM] Olmert added. If Herzog attempted to pardon him without a confession, “it would become a monumental scandal. And would likely be struck down in the Supreme Court,” he said.

Olmert served a prison term himself for accepting bribes and for obstruction of justice, charges connected to his time as mayor of Jerusalem and as a trade minister.
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:42 pm And here's the deal, the QPQ. Donald and Bibi seem to be making the most of the opportunity to flatter each other.
Politico wrote:On a day of extraordinary moments, one of the most jaw-dropping saw Trump — during his hour-long address to the Knesset in Jerusalem — turning to Israel’s President Isaac Herzog to advocate he pardon Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on long-standing fraud and bribery charges.

“Give him a pardon, come on,” Trump said, flashing a grin and pointing to Netanyahu, who he dubbed “one of the greatest” wartime leaders.
Some of Netanyahu’s political foes publicly argued during the war that the Israeli leader wanted to prolong the conflict to delay any legal reckoning in a case set to resume once the guns fall silent.
“A pardon is granted only when the defendant admits guilt and Bibi will never do that,” [former PM] Olmert added. If Herzog attempted to pardon him without a confession, “it would become a monumental scandal. And would likely be struck down in the Supreme Court,” he said.

Olmert served a prison term himself for accepting bribes and for obstruction of justice, charges connected to his time as mayor of Jerusalem and as a trade minister.
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ohio jones wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:15 pm
Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:39 pm I have to go back and hear which particular award Netanyahu said he would be giving president Trump, he absolutely said it’s never been given to anyone outside of Israel, so I’m not sure we’re talking about the same thing ...
Okay, there were apparently two awards being talked about in the Knesset today, hence the confusion. The Presidential Medal of Honor mentioned upthread is awarded by the President, Isaac Herzog. Trump appears to definitely be getting this one.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-870273

The Israel Prize is a separate thing.
Mediaite wrote:Addressing the Knesset, while Trump sat beside him, Netanyahu paid tribute to the president as Israel’s “best friend” and hailed the peace deal as a breakthrough when he gave nod to the nomination for the nation’s highest domestic award.

“Mr. President, thank you for all you have done for us. I have submitted your nomination to be the first non-Israeli recipient of the Israel Prize, Israel’s highest award,” the prime minister announced.
It seems this is a nomination, not the actual award. That requires the unanimous consent of an appointed committee and would be conferred on Independence Day, May 14. There's precedent for some controversy in the process. It's usually given to an Israeli citizen with occasional exceptions for a long-term resident, so this would indeed be a break with tradition.
Whew, we sure wouldn’t want to appear supportive of him getting a reward, so much better to be negative about him it seems.
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Valerie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:53 pm Whew, we sure wouldn’t want to appear supportive of him getting a reward, so much better to be negative about him it seems.
Not sure where the perception of negativity is coming from; I was attempting to be factual. If he does get the Israel Prize it will be well deserved.
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