Poll: Masks and Face Shields

Things that are not part of politics happening presently and how we approach or address it as Anabaptists.

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Moses
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Aaron wrote:Jesus was born around 4 b.c., (long before 1700), right ?
Dunno, I wasn't there. According to the experts that's about when he was born, but you don't believe them... and by the way, in case you never heard --- he died and they buried him...
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https://jewsforjesus.org/publications/i ... -of-jesus/

"The resurrection of Yeshua, as with any historical event, must be explored and examined on the weight* of the evidence. It is not logical to say that it is okay for Gentiles to believe in the resurrection but it is not acceptable for Jews to believe. Either it happened or it didn't. As Maimonides once declared,

A truth, once it is established by proof, neither gains additional force from its acceptance by all scholars, nor loses any force if all reject it..."


or, by faith - for without faith it is impossible to please Yahweh.
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JimFoxvog

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Robert wrote: Why wouldn't his wife wear a mask instead of everyone else?
Because the mainstream epidemiologists say that a mask is much more effective in preventing the wearer from giving the virus to others than it is in prevent the wearer from getting the virus.
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I think if I was her, I would wear one as well.

I really do think there is some benefit if all wear the mask.

But, it is just an opinion....and as my husband likes to say, the world is full of opinions these days.

I also think that others will be more willing to wear a mask if she wears one herself.

Regardless, I hope she is able to stay well.
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Josh wrote:
JimFoxvog wrote:Yesterday I was talking with a friend whose elderly mother has an autoimmune disease which requires immune system suppressing medicines. She's quite concerned about her mom getting COVID-19. Her dad, a retired missionary, is trying to figure out an acceptable way to ask people to wear masks when his wife is present. His current try is to carry lots of masks, say "It's Christmas! Here's a present for you!" and hand people masks. I suggested just be frank. "My wife has an immune disease. Would you please wear a mask to protect her health?" and give a mask.
Any suggestions?
I would suggest he take measures beyond wearing non-medical masks, because those won’t help her very much.
Right. She needs a mask that will give her 100% protection, and may need supplemental oxygen too, since such a mask likely will be restrictive of air intake. Maybe the kind of masks they wear to apply toxic pesticides would keep the virus from getting to her. I don't know.
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An N100 would be a wise idea, plus adequate social distancing and staying outdoors. I would be glad to socialise under such circumstances and indeed did so today with a particular person.
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Moses wrote:
Aaron wrote:
Josh wrote:If she has serious concerns about contracting COVID-19, she needs to wear a mask designed to protect herself, like a legitimate N95; imported Chinese KN95 masks won't work. On the bright side, there isn't actually any evidence immunocompromised individuals are more likely to die from COVID-19 than other people, so she could do her health a good favour by choosing not to worry.

Relying on other people wearing non-medical masks won't protect anyone from contracting the disease.
Some of you previous posts were seeming good and right.
This one seems not so much.
It is those with a weak/ compromised/ (already sick) / who are the ones most in trouble, most likely to die (of one thing or another).

The cover up , though, of what someone can do, of what worked in the past surprisingly well,
that is "unforgivable" to those in power who are part of it (the coverup).

I asked, in person, drug lord representatives/employees/doctors, etc/ if they believed it was right to charge people $100,000.00 for terminal treatments , (the ones that result in more weakness, sickness, and death) , instead of charging people $3000.00 for non-toxic treatments that "FIRST OF ALL, CAUSE NO HARM", and second, are inexpensive, and third, often work to bring about full or partial recovery.

They ALWAYS SAID YES ! ! ? ? ( ..... grief, sorrow, broken heart, for their nonchalant , heartless look on their faces - indicating a dead conscience/ or seared beyond caring for what is right .... )
So if there is a wonderful treatment that always works, why is there nobody around who was born before 1700?
Maybe this has something to do with it: Psalms 90:10 “The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”
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Fidelio wrote:
Moses wrote:
Aaron wrote: Some of you previous posts were seeming good and right.
This one seems not so much.
It is those with a weak/ compromised/ (already sick) / who are the ones most in trouble, most likely to die (of one thing or another).

The cover up , though, of what someone can do, of what worked in the past surprisingly well,
that is "unforgivable" to those in power who are part of it (the coverup).

I asked, in person, drug lord representatives/employees/doctors, etc/ if they believed it was right to charge people $100,000.00 for terminal treatments , (the ones that result in more weakness, sickness, and death) , instead of charging people $3000.00 for non-toxic treatments that "FIRST OF ALL, CAUSE NO HARM", and second, are inexpensive, and third, often work to bring about full or partial recovery.

They ALWAYS SAID YES ! ! ? ? ( ..... grief, sorrow, broken heart, for their nonchalant , heartless look on their faces - indicating a dead conscience/ or seared beyond caring for what is right .... )
So if there is a wonderful treatment that always works, why is there nobody around who was born before 1700?
Maybe this has something to do with it: Psalms 90:10 “The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”
That tells us that even in the old days people were subject to illness, pain and the aging process, even the people that followed God's law. There's no remedy, old or new, to keep us from dying.
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Moses wrote:
Fidelio wrote:
Moses wrote: So if there is a wonderful treatment that always works, why is there nobody around who was born before 1700?
Maybe this has something to do with it: Psalms 90:10 “The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.”
That tells us that even in the old days people were subject to illness, pain and the aging process, even the people that followed God's law. There's no remedy, old or new, to keep us from dying.
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.
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Ernie wrote:This is a thread to discuss all matters related to masks and face shields.


Feel free to add other poll numbers in this thread if you think of options not listed. I wish the polls allowed more than 10 options.
Hi Ernie. I was curious what the OP /subject/ topic was, after reading some of the posts on later pages... (mine and others).. so I came back to the OP and
of course noticed you said "all matters related to " ..... (i.e. wide open? ) Like what is the source of such things? Why does anyone require them or enforce them or think they are good or bad, effective or ineffective ?

Is there something specific though - not about everything related, but more focused, that you hoped to find out or to hear about ? (hopefully and prayerfully and thankfully in line with God's Word, or just the world's ways ? )
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