Outcomes of Overturning Roe Vs. Wade

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Re: Outcomes of Overturning Roe Vs. Wade

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HondurasKeiser wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:33 am
Jazman wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:53 pm Temp, has [have] the Marches for Life and politician talk and legislating changed hearts & minds?
That's an unanswerable question. It's also rhetorical because you assume the obvious answer is no in order to shut down Temp's (and those like her) line of argument. In reality though one cannot say with any certainty what has or hasn't changed people's hearts and minds. What's more, your question assumes that "hearts and minds" are the only relevant field of engagement. In point of fact, legislating against abortion may or may not "change hearts and minds" but it nevertheless may save quite a few children that would otherwise have been aborted.

If it were possible, it would be interesting to ask those 'almost aborted', when they're adults, if they cared how their mother "felt in her heart" about the abortion issue when they were still a fetus.
There are many testimonies of women who gratefully changed their minds to choose life, and many testimonies of adults who knew they were planned to be aborted, but whose mothers had changed hearts before it was too late. Some are from high-achievers or leaders in their lives. There is a lot of gratitude for extensive effort prolife folks (often volunteer). i used to follow a few pro-life sites, like Save the Storks, Take my hand, not my life, etc. Lots of volunteered testimonies found in Comments. Compelling reason to volunteer help to women and their babies.

Some reports are from adults who survived abortion attempts - including saline abortions!
They are physically scarred, but grateful for their lives.

It’s amazing how the sight of a simple sonogram, no words required, can change a mind. Life!

All true, altho this is a bunny trail from the OP. :)
When i posted above, it was mostly about noting the first MFL following the overturn of RvW. (i don’t mind the b.t., i won’t complain to mods or OP.)

i first began noticing MFL on MD when Wayne was asking about others who might be attending. His young daughter, Franzi, was going.
i’ve continued to learn with interest - mostly about how these well attended peaceful marches have gone on annually, for decades, without msm fanfare! impressive. altho, i’m not one to join rallies or join organized blocs. i appreciate others follow their beliefs.

in the case of prolife interests, it requires many unorganized voices speaking and acting in many ways for the same godly outcome.
i prefer these to be family and church matters, not political.
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CALIFORNIA / ”Gavin Newsom Says California Won’t Do Business With Walgreens Over Abortion Pills Issue”
California's governor said the state is “done” doing business with "any company that cowers to the extremists and puts women's lives at risk"

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234691746/

TEXAS / ”Man Seeks $1 Million Each From Ex-Wife’s Friends After They Allegedly Helped Her Find Abortion Pills”
The man's lawsuit accuses the women of "involvement in the murder of his child" and looks to sue them
for "wrongful death and conspiracy"

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234694620/
(The pregnant woman is protected from litigation.)
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FLORIDA / Republicans look to end Florida’s abortion-haven legacy
Florida’s proposal signals that the battle over reproductive rights will continue long after the Supreme Court’s decision.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/1 ... y-00086640
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Florida’s proposal signals that the battle over reproductive rights will continue long after the Supreme Court’s decision.
Few present would overlook the journalistic “sleight-of-hand” in these words. :evil:
“Florida’s proposal” is the identified problem?! :shock:

Hopefully, the immediate+extreme+ongoing fight of pro-aborts against the USSC ruling will not be forgotten - these are the unmatched source of continued battles. Early-on beginnng at homes of justices!

The established pattern of journalistic sleight-of-hand.
“Say anything” to dismiss+demean conservative views, and, expect it to go unquestioned. It so often is unquestioned.

Just as the words, “insurrection” and “coup” were widely thrown out by msm as fact before any investigation, at all.
The public allows these travesties, often followed with lengthy+expensive attempts to untangle (train wrecks).

MSM is huge+dominant. As such they hold greater need of accountability, and they claim to be so and do so.
Don’t bother to dismiss with “they all have bias.” (They do.) But that doesn’t make them equivalents.

Not all wrecks are accidents. Some are deliberate collisions. Huge difference.
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Supreme Court preserves access to abortion pill for now
https://apnews.com/article/supreme-cour ... 6096339ea4
.. The challenge to mifepristone is the first abortion controversy to reach the nation’s highest court since its conservative majority overturned Roe v. Wade 10 months ago and allowed more than a dozen states to effectively ban abortion outright.

In his majority opinion last June, Alito said one reason for overturning Roe was to remove federal courts from the abortion fight.
“It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives,” he wrote.

But even with their court victory, abortion opponents returned to federal court with a new target:
medication abortions, which make up more than half of all abortions in the United States.

Women seeking to end their pregnancies in the first 10 weeks without more invasive surgical abortion can take
mifepristone, along with misoprostol. The FDA has eased the terms of mifepristone’s use over the years, including allowing it to be sent through the mail in states that allow access.

The abortion opponents filed suit in Texas in November, asserting that the FDA’s original approval of mifepristone 23 years ago and subsequent changes were flawed. ..
.. And a new legal wrinkle threatened even more complications. GenBioPro, which makes the generic version of mifepristone, filed a lawsuit Wednesday to preemptively block the FDA from removing its drug from the market, in the event that the Supreme Court doesn’t intervene.

The Supreme Court was only being asked to block the lower-court rulings through the end of the legal case.

The appeals court has sped up its review, but there is no timetable for a ruling.

Any appeal to the Supreme Court would follow within three months of a ruling, but with no deadline for the justices to decide whether to review the case.
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Half of all abortions? Wow.
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This morning Biden tweeted this comment
The extreme and dangerous MAGA Republican agenda is out-of-step with the vast majority of Americans. We will continue to protect access to reproductive health care and call on Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law once and for all.
So now the president is saying that an agenda of preserving the lives of the unborn, is "dangerous and extreme".

The evilness and death promotion coming from the president is beyond the pale. He is labeling the pro- life beliefs of millions of hard working, law abiding, peaceful, American people as " extreme" and “dangerous”. Most American people simply work hard, raise families, love God, pay their taxes, and try to eek out a living for themselves and their families. Yet because they don’t support abortion they, and their agenda is "extreme and dangerous".
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Grace wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:30 am This morning Biden tweeted this comment
The extreme and dangerous MAGA Republican agenda is out-of-step with the vast majority of Americans. We will continue to protect access to reproductive health care and call on Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law once and for all.
So now the president is saying that an agenda of preserving the lives of the unborn, is "dangerous and extreme".

The evilness and death promotion coming from the president is beyond the pale. He is labeling the pro- life beliefs of millions of hard working, law abiding, peaceful, American people as " extreme" and “dangerous”. Most American people simply work hard, raise families, love God, pay their taxes, and try to eek out a living for themselves and their families. Yet because they don’t support abortion they, and their agenda is "extreme and dangerous".
At least he didn’t say “quasi-fascist” this time. :roll:
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Falco Knotwise wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:22 am
Grace wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:30 am This morning Biden tweeted this comment
The extreme and dangerous MAGA Republican agenda is out-of-step with the vast majority of Americans.
We will continue to protect access to reproductive health care and call on Congress to restore the protections of Roe v. Wade in federal law once and for all.
So now the president is saying that an agenda of preserving the lives of the unborn, is "dangerous and extreme".

The evilness and death promotion coming from the president is beyond the pale.

He is labeling the pro- life beliefs of millions of hard working, law abiding, peaceful, American people as " extreme" and “dangerous”. Most American people simply work hard, raise families, love God, pay their taxes, and try to eek out a living for themselves and their families. Yet because they don’t support abortion they, and their agenda is "extreme and dangerous".
At least he didn’t say “quasi-fascist” this time. :roll:
In addition to the evilness of promotion of carnal sin and death of this admin, along with blatant rejection of a SCOTUS ruling,
this sort of deliberate+reckless, obfuscation of language contributes to (confusion) when authentic violent and criminal acts occur, example, Hamas, Oct 7.

For cheap political shots, words are made meaningless, communication is compromised.
There are too many examples.
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It would be amazing if everyone knew that a pregnant woman would always be graciously cared for by any Christian. That we would sacrifice without second thought to help. That they could always find love and support. That they were so encouraged by our lives that abortion would be put far from their minds because of such love. We don’t need the kingdoms of darkness to help in anyway, we need the kingdom of God springing forth because of lives sold out for Christs call of loving God and neighbour.
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