Josh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 1:54 pmThen make it a territory where they aren’t citizens, which is entirely a function of legislation. Not the constitution. The U.S. has had many territories where it didn’t grant citizenship.
So you want the US to be an apartheid state like Israel or the former South Africa? That is the implication of what you just wrote.
We did a lot of things in the 19th century that were egregiously wrong. American Indians living in the US were not given citizenship and the right to vote until 1924. But we don't do those kinds of things anymore and neither to most other countries outside of Israel, China, and Russia.
But one thing is certain. If we decided to make Haiti a US territory then all Haitians would become US Citizens and the United States would be taking on the PERMANENT responsibility to manage Haiti socially, economically, environmentally, and all Haitians would become entitled to all the other rights and benefits of US citizens, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Food Stamps, college loans and grants, etc. etc.
OK, how about this then? We build a big wall on our southern border, stop sending aid to Haiti, and let them figure out their problems themselves. And stop the tidal flood of immigrants from there and other places illegally crossing the border.
Make up your mind. Just upstream you were complaining that the Biden Administration was TOO SLOW to intervene in Haiti.
I simply explained why doing international peacekeeping is more complicated than simply invading.
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Did you miss the part where I said I’d prefer an international coalition?
Nonetheless, Haitians in the ground really don’t want the U.S. or anyone else running things. So pretty much any plan is a no-go. All I ask is that if they don’t want to run a reasonable country with, say, similar conduct to Dominican Republic, then they stop also demanding to move to the U.S. and export their problems here.
Haiti. Possession of firearms, ammunition, and dangerous weaponry is strictly prohibited to any person, unless the individual has a Haitian license or has been specifically authorized by Haitian authorities. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/traveling- ... uthorities.
At least they have strict gun control there. Can’t imagine if it didn’t.
Josh wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 3:17 pmNonetheless, Haitians in the ground really don’t want the U.S. or anyone else running things. So pretty much any plan is a no-go.
Yes. I think this is a good statement. Typically, any thread about a problem brings out all the usuals offering solutions, but in this case particularly, it's truly a waste of time. It's not really what the original post was about, anyway.
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