Colorado Suspect Identifies as Non-Binary

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mike wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:10 pm Transgendered persons appear to have society by the nose ring.
It is no wonder more and more people want that kind of power.
It may be “so bad,” it may be “the straw that breaks the camel’s back.” Esp wrt everyone’s children+teens.
Prayers for mercy.
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mike wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:10 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:30 pm
mike wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:17 pm

Of course the defense will claim something like this. They are trying to get out of the increased hate crime penalties.
What is a little humorous is...AP went along with it and as I was reading the article my brain kept getting tripped up on the singular usage of "they/them."
Transgendered persons appear to have society by the nose ring. It is no wonder more and more people want that kind of power.
Transgender people are, on average twice as poor as the general population and suffer pervasive workplace discrimination.: https://nwlc.org/income-security-is-elu ... er-survey/

And they suffer from much higher suicide rates: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... pt-suicide

Those are most definitely sure signs of an elite group with lots of power.
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Ken wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:31 pm
mike wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:10 pm
joshuabgood wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:30 pm

What is a little humorous is...AP went along with it and as I was reading the article my brain kept getting tripped up on the singular usage of "they/them."
Transgendered persons appear to have society by the nose ring. It is no wonder more and more people want that kind of power.
Transgender people are, on average twice as poor as the general population and suffer pervasive workplace discrimination.: https://nwlc.org/income-security-is-elu ... er-survey/

And they suffer from much higher suicide rates: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articl ... pt-suicide

Those are most definitely sure signs of an elite group with lots of power.
I did not say that they are an elite group, or that they wield economic power. Obviously, neither is the case. But they clearly have the ability to cause large swathes of society, including institutions that DO have elite status and economic power, to reframe its language and redefine historic and scientific definitions of what constitutes a man or woman. That most certainly is power.
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MaxPC wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:55 am Apparently some MSM opinionators are attempting to pin this shooting on right wing extremists. According to court records:
Anderson Lee Aldrich, the suspect who allegedly shot and killed five people and wounded at least 18 others over the weekend at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado, identifies as non-binary and uses “they/them” pronouns, according to a court filing on Tuesday night.
Leaping to conclusions seems to be the MO on any news story of late.
I don't know how many people here know this, but remember that Orlando Florida shooting at a gay nightclub a few years back, 49 people killed, 53 wounded? Tragic though it certainly was it had nothing to do with hatred for LGBTQ+. The guy who did the shooting was a Muslim ISIS supporter taking revenge for Muslims killed by American soldiers overseas. He chose the place at random and had no idea it was even a gay bar.

So that was another one the MSM got wrong and ran it with it for quite some time before finally admitting they got it wrong.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/noor-sal ... 454dc2/amp
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Suicide is something the world has not yet addressed well.
A lot to learn.

There are coercive aspects, guilt and blame aspects, impulse aspects, power aspects, drug abuse - and probably much more.
Many murderers are found to be on psych meds. i’m no expert! i know there is a lot to learn.

“How to Deal with Coercive Suicide Threats”
Suicide threats can be a form of abuse called coercive control
https://betterhumans.pub/how-to-deal-wi ... a72e5cdab1

“What Role Does Impulsivity Play in Suicide?”
https://msrc.fsu.edu/research/what-role ... ay-suicide

“Held Hostage By Our Son’s Suicide Threats”
https://neildbrown.com/podcast/held-hos ... e-threats/

“Full article: Suicide and mental disorders: A discourse of politics, power, and vested interests”
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10 ... 17.1332905

To rush to expose/normalize trans behaviors to everyone’s children may be the biggest example of the “tail wags the dog” ever in history. What’s being traded here? Will the results be MORE trauma/confusion, MORE suicides? - i wouldn’t be surprised.

The “MUSTS” and “THEREFORES” foisted upon the general public by self-appointed “discerners of all that is good” seem an awful lot like “just ordinary lies” that have popped up throughout history. There are now so many! Spreading like wildfire.

Buyer beware.
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mike wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:00 pm
I did not say that they are an elite group, or that they wield economic power. Obviously, neither is the case.

But they clearly have the ability to cause large swathes of society, including institutions that DO have elite status and economic power, to reframe its language and redefine historic and scientific definitions of what constitutes a man or woman. That most certainly is power.
Once organized political blocs+cults gain access to legal protections and access to the public treasury, they run thru the DOE and elsewhere - not only unrestrained, but promoted and funded. minority rule, it’s become efficient+extreme.

It’s a formidable beast.

There is constant exploitation of individual sinners by powerful organized blocs. The beasts are ACE at keeping ordinary people divided over moral issues, when, in fact, they, themselves are completely amoral.
temporal1 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:38 am
Falco Underhill wrote: Sat Nov 19, 2022 10:06 am This lawsuit says students complain about being bullied for their gender identity, therefore the school MUST teach queer ideology and allow children to read gay library porn.

All student complaints are anonymous because they "fear reprisals" so the public just has to take the ACLU's word that this is happening.

The ACLU claims it's immoral not to teach tolerance classes and school administrations that refuse to teach it are "extremists" and "unfit" to have responsibility over children.

We all knew this was coming.

Welcome to Gomorrah.

(I'm assuming the ACLU will win this one.)

https://www.aclupa.org/en/news/why-weve ... l-district
Now years ago, i noticed a terrible confusion being made (often deliberately) between responding to individual sinners (in whatever sin) versus response to powerful+monied organized political blocs. 2 very different matters. Often confused.

Over years, i believe organized political blocs now include organized political cults.

The article below reflects a portion of the problem:

Illinois Gov. Pritzker, Billionaire Family At Forefront Of Radical Gender Ideology Push: Report
https://www.dailywire.com/news/illinois ... ush-report

Beware “carrying water” for THE LOST.
Understand how they manipulate your emotions to recruite you. No shame.
On the right below is JBP, Illinois current governor:

Falco:
Welcome to Gomorrah.
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I feel sorry for this young person who has endured a lifetime of pain, abuse and rejection from those who should have cared the most. Not that this excuses what was done in any way, but think of the difference it might have made if someone had been able to show the love of Jesus to Aldrich.
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... or, before that, to Brink. The suspect seems to be experienced at assuming identities.
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Falco Underhill wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:05 pm
MaxPC wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:55 am Apparently some MSM opinionators are attempting to pin this shooting on right wing extremists. According to court records:
Anderson Lee Aldrich, the suspect who allegedly shot and killed five people and wounded at least 18 others over the weekend at an LGBTQ nightclub in Colorado, identifies as non-binary and uses “they/them” pronouns, according to a court filing on Tuesday night.
Leaping to conclusions seems to be the MO on any news story of late.
I don't know how many people here know this, but remember that Orlando Florida shooting at a gay nightclub a few years back, 49 people killed, 53 wounded? Tragic though it certainly was it had nothing to do with hatred for LGBTQ+. The guy who did the shooting was a Muslim ISIS supporter taking revenge for Muslims killed by American soldiers overseas. He chose the place at random and had no idea it was even a gay bar.

So that was another one the MSM got wrong and ran it with it for quite some time before finally admitting they got it wrong.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/noor-sal ... 454dc2/amp
Indeed. Every MSM venue rushes to make the first headline. Within days it is binned for the next headline. Rarely are retractions headlined.

In the meantime the blame game continues while families are in pain.
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ken_sylvania wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 2:34 pm I feel sorry for this young person who has endured a lifetime of pain, abuse and rejection from those who should have cared the most. Not that this excuses what was done in any way, but think of the difference it might have made if someone had been able to show the love of Jesus to Aldrich.
That’s just it. Recognizing the sinner separate from organized political blocs exploiting him.
In many cases, wondering why years of crime were not sufficient to prevent more+worse crime.
MaxPC wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:03 pm
Indeed. Every MSM venue rushes to make the first headline. Within days it is binned for the next headline. Rarely are retractions headlined.

In the meantime the blame game continues while families are in pain.
Even in the case of Nick Sandmann, who later sued and (settled out of court for big money?) - any lessons learned??
No evidence of it.

Evidently, the profits are worth the risks. :evil:
As long as the public bites ..
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