The line looks a little fuzzy between terrorists and gangs...
Haiti Kidnapping
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RZehr
Re: Haiti Kidnapping
It isn't just a descriptive term, it is defined on a list. The law is for officially designated terrorist organizations. For example, if ISIS had these missionaries kidnapped, it would be illegal according to American law to pay any ransom. But the 400 Mawozo gang is not one of those such organizations: https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/
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Soloist
Re: Haiti Kidnapping
I understand that. I took care of accused "terrorists" in Cuba and often the greater power dictates the designation. When we consider hostage taking, the terrorists have long done this for support of their activities against the established government. Sometimes we call them freedom fighters, and other times we call them terrorists. The gangs in Haiti seem to be seeking power and control which is starting to slide them into the category of insurrectionists and the people there are being terrorized by these gangs... so list aside...RZehr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:38 pm
It isn't just a descriptive term, it is defined on a list. The law is for officially designated terrorist organizations. For example, if ISIS had these missionaries kidnapped, it would be illegal according to American law to pay any ransom. But the 400 Mawozo gang is not one of those such organizations: https://www.state.gov/foreign-terrorist-organizations/
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MaxPC
Re: Haiti Kidnapping
Any more news on which two of the hostages have been released? We keep praying for all, of course.
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mike
Re: Haiti Kidnapping
CAM is requesting that no news be publicly released about the released hostages.
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mike
Re: Haiti Kidnapping
CAM wrote:Update on Haiti kidnapping
Dec 6, 2021
We are thankful to God that three more hostages were released last night. Those who were released are safe and seem to be in good spirits. As with the previous release, we are not able to provide the names of the people released, the circumstances of the release, or any other details.
As announced on Friday, we would like to focus the next three days on praying and fasting for the hostages. Please continue to intercede for those who are still being held as well as those who have been released. We long for all the hostages to be reunited with their loved ones. Thank you for your prayer support.
Christian Aid Ministries | December 6, 2021 9:30 a.m.
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Does anyone know if these that have been released are still in Haiti, or have they come back to the states? Or maybe that is not information that can be released?
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Ken
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Re: Haiti Kidnapping
What the New York Times reported this morning: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/06/worl ... ticleShare
Three of a Group of Missionaries Kidnapped in Haiti Have Been Released
The U.S. Christian aid group said three more people were released from a group of 17 that had been kidnapped by a gang in Haiti. Two had been released last month.
MEXICO CITY — Three more hostages from a group of 17 missionaries kidnapped in Haiti have been released, the American Christian charity they were with said on Monday. Their release brought the total number of people freed to five.
In a statement on Monday, Christian Aid Ministries said that the three people released “are safe and seem to be in good spirits.”
The organization did not provide their names, ages or the circumstances of their release, including whether a ransom had been paid. In the past, the group had asked for discretion to protect the hostages still being held.
“We would like to focus the next three days on praying and fasting for the hostages,” the statement read. The group continued, “We long for all the hostages to be reunited with their loved ones. Thank you for your prayer support.”
Two hostages from the Ohio-based charity were released on Nov. 21.
The kidnapped group, which included 16 Americans and one Canadian, was taken in October by a gang called 400 Mawozo, in a neighborhood of Port-au-Prince, the Haitian capital. Swaths of the city have come under control of criminal groups amid the escalating political and economic crisis that followed the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse, in July.
Among those kidnapped were five children. Kidnapping has become an increasingly common practice for Haitian gangs, who have targeted even students going to school and pastors delivering sermons.
The 400 Mawozo gang, which is well-known for orchestrating mass kidnappings, had initially demanded a ransom of $1 million per person, although that was widely viewed as a starting sum for negotiations. It is not clear what, if any, money was paid for the five people released so far.
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A fool can throw out more questions than a wise man can answer. -RZehr
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MaxPC