Synthetic fabrics vs. fabrics made of natural fibers

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Ernie
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Synthetic fabrics vs. fabrics made of natural fibers

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JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:34 am
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 7:10 am
JohnH wrote: ↑Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:32 pm The Holdeman fabric suppliers supply a lot of fabric stores, including in ones I assume are Orthodox Jews, Amish, and so forth. One of them at the level where the owner goes to China and orders an entire factory’s output.
Non-synthetics?
Extremely synthetic.

In the last 2-3 years natural fibres have become popular with fashionable people. Some people who want to imitate that are buying blends of plastic and natural fibres. Of course those of us who pioneered the natural fibre trend look down on this.

Depending on how fast trends travel to your circles, you will eventually see loose, linen-based dresses with shorter hemlines that typically are not ironed-pressed, and later on you’ll see wool based dresses for wintertime wear (unless that trend dies out, but I don’t think it will even though it’s more expensive).

These trends usually start amongst Canadian Holdemans, show up with Michigan Holdemans a year later, and are conference wide 2 years later. Then the trend matriculates to moderate conservatives, Charity, Beachys etc 2-5 years later. I’m not sure how long it will take ultras to pick up on it. But they and the Amish will eventually adopt it, just like they did “knits” (synthetics).
Where do Canadian Holdemans get their ideas from?
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Re: Synthetic fabrics vs. fabrics made of natural fibers

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So linen and wool...
Where does cotton fit into this?
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Asbestos is listed as a natural fiber. Not something I think I would want to wear. Why is asbestos considered natural and petroleum-based products considered "unnatural"?
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Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 5:58 pm Where do Canadian Holdemans get their ideas from?
Can’t figure out that one. They do carry on the ancient Flemish tradition of “gay clothes, but plain houses”.
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:01 pm So linen and wool...
Where does cotton fit into this?
Cotton is also highly in style being a traditional, natural fibre. But cotton never really went out of style.
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:02 pm Asbestos is listed as a natural fiber. Not something I think I would want to wear. Why is asbestos considered natural and petroleum-based products considered "unnatural"?
Asbestos comes from rocks and is mined using an industrial process.
“Natural fibres” usually means something that has traditionally been used since ancient times for making clothes.

Plastic fabric is quite new and has the unfortunate problem it does not nearly as long, is much harder to repair, and sheds microplastics when washed.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:27 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 5:58 pm Where do Canadian Holdemans get their ideas from?
Can’t figure out that one. They do carry on the ancient Flemish tradition of “gay clothes, but plain houses”.
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:01 pm So linen and wool...
Where does cotton fit into this?
Cotton is also highly in style being a traditional, natural fibre. But cotton never really went out of style.
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:02 pm Asbestos is listed as a natural fiber. Not something I think I would want to wear. Why is asbestos considered natural and petroleum-based products considered :? "unnatural"?
Asbestos comes from rocks and is mined using an industrial process.
“Natural fibres” usually means something that has traditionally been used since ancient times for making clothes.

Plastic fabric is quite new and has the unfortunate problem it does not nearly as long, is much harder to repair, and sheds microplastics when washed.
Wife: also, polyester is absolutely horrible to wear to a bonfire or when tending the fireplace. Not saying I’m speaking from experience or anything like that… :?
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I prefer shirts with high cotton content, because the polyester stuff is cold in winter and hot in summer. The fabric that is mixed (cotton & polyester) lasts longer, but it gets really thin after the cotton in it wears out and disappears. 'Bout can't get rid of a shirt like that. I finally just have to toss them in the garbage, because the fabric is so thin it isn't decent anymore. It's the same with socks - the cotton (or wool) ones are by far the best, both in winter and summer, but they don't last as long. It's worse for me because I have such narrow arches that I have trouble finding shoes that fit me, and then my toes are really spread out, and my toe nails grow right at the tip of my toes, so the nails tend to cut through my socks.
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Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:01 pm Wife: also, polyester is absolutely horrible to wear to a bonfire or when tending the fireplace. Not saying I’m speaking from experience or anything like that… :?
None of the fabrics Mennonites and Amish use that are synthetic are allowed for commercial sale of young children’s clothes due to how rapidly they will burn. Another reason to just say no to them.

I cringe when I see a lovingly made handmade version outfit for a newborn made with synthetics. Any clothing for infants must be considered sleepwear.
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Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:01 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:27 pm
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 5:58 pm Where do Canadian Holdemans get their ideas from?
Can’t figure out that one. They do carry on the ancient Flemish tradition of “gay clothes, but plain houses”.
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:01 pm So linen and wool...
Where does cotton fit into this?
Cotton is also highly in style being a traditional, natural fibre. But cotton never really went out of style.
Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:02 pm Asbestos is listed as a natural fiber. Not something I think I would want to wear. Why is asbestos considered natural and petroleum-based products considered :? "unnatural"?
Asbestos comes from rocks and is mined using an industrial process.
“Natural fibres” usually means something that has traditionally been used since ancient times for making clothes.

Plastic fabric is quite new and has the unfortunate problem it does not nearly as long, is much harder to repair, and sheds microplastics when washed.
Wife: also, polyester is absolutely horrible to wear to a bonfire or when tending the fireplace. Not saying I’m speaking from experience or anything like that… :?
Someone's brush fire got away down in Brazil, at the mission center, and we were all fighting fire. I was wearing a shirt with lots of polyester in it, and an ember fell on my shoulder, and melted the fabric to my skin. But a burn hole in polyester also doesn't unravel, either.
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Neto wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:07 pm
Soloist wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:01 pm
JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:27 pm

Can’t figure out that one. They do carry on the ancient Flemish tradition of “gay clothes, but plain houses”.



Cotton is also highly in style being a traditional, natural fibre. But cotton never really went out of style.



Asbestos comes from rocks and is mined using an industrial process.
“Natural fibres” usually means something that has traditionally been used since ancient times for making clothes.

Plastic fabric is quite new and has the unfortunate problem it does not nearly as long, is much harder to repair, and sheds microplastics when washed.
Wife: also, polyester is absolutely horrible to wear to a bonfire or when tending the fireplace. Not saying I’m speaking from experience or anything like that… :?
Someone's brush fire got away down in Brazil, at the mission center, and we were all fighting fire. I was wearing a shirt with lots of polyester in it, and an ember fell on my shoulder, and melted the fabric to my skin. But a burn hole in polyester also doesn't unravel, either.
Wife: the school teacher told the children a story about being at a wedding, and the bride’s dress melting.

I have became very strict with my children about what dresses to wear when we’re burning, etc., because you can have a huge hole melted in your dress without you even noticing it. and of course, it burns onto skin if it gets the chance.
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JohnH wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 6:27 pm “Natural fibres” usually means something that has traditionally been used since ancient times for making clothes.
Leafing aside the first attempt at clothing, leather is a more ancient material than fiber-based cloth.
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