This whole Russian hacking story strikes me as a red herring.
The Democrats seem to be using it as an excuse for losing, while in retrospect they probably would have lost anyhow.
While the Republicans seem to be contorting themselves into all manner of shapes in order to fit in with some sort of future pro-Russian agenda that they don't seem to quite understand yet.
I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
Credible News Sources: The Russian Hacking Story
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CNN did not publish the actual report like Buzz feed did but I believe the fact that they headlined the report first was what gave buzz feed the courage to do what they did. Right now though I am thinking that CNN wishes they would of done what the other news agencies did and been even more restrained.Bootstrap wrote:Buzzfeed did.ragpicker wrote:It was Fake News. CNN and Buzzfeed ran with it, as did a number of other people.
I don't see CNN as particularly trustworthy, but according to The Hill, CNN was much more restrained, stating that it would not publish the allegations because it could not corroborate them.
Let me make a prediction. Buzz feed will totally lose their seat at the White house press conferences and CNN will be relegated to a back seat and will be lucky to ever get acknowledged for a question.
And they have no one to blame but themselves.
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I think there is lots of evidence that it happened. I just find it quite hypocritical that the left is all of a sudden so worried about it when in fact it is not a new thing at all. This is sour grapes of the worst sort and had they won this would not even be news.RZehr wrote:This whole Russian hacking story strikes me as a red herring.
The Democrats seem to be using it as an excuse for losing, while in retrospect they probably would have lost anyhow.
While the Republicans seem to be contorting themselves into all manner of shapes in order to fit in with some sort of future pro-Russian agenda that they don't seem to quite understand yet.
I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
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I haven't looked at the evidence at all. I don't really care enough about it to do so, but I do read headlines. It does seem odd to me that the two parties seem to have done backflips and now are singing the other parties traditional tune.appleman2006 wrote:I think there is lots of evidence that it happened. I just find it quite hypocritical that the left is all of a sudden so worried about it when in fact it is not a new thing at all. This is sour grapes of the worst sort and had they won this would not even be news.RZehr wrote:This whole Russian hacking story strikes me as a red herring.
The Democrats seem to be using it as an excuse for losing, while in retrospect they probably would have lost anyhow.
While the Republicans seem to be contorting themselves into all manner of shapes in order to fit in with some sort of future pro-Russian agenda that they don't seem to quite understand yet.
I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
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I tend to agree.RZehr wrote:I haven't looked at the evidence at all. I don't really care enough about it to do so, but I do read headlines. It does seem odd to me that the two parties seem to have done backflips and now are singing the other parties traditional tune.appleman2006 wrote:I think there is lots of evidence that it happened. I just find it quite hypocritical that the left is all of a sudden so worried about it when in fact it is not a new thing at all. This is sour grapes of the worst sort and had they won this would not even be news.RZehr wrote:This whole Russian hacking story strikes me as a red herring.
The Democrats seem to be using it as an excuse for losing, while in retrospect they probably would have lost anyhow.
While the Republicans seem to be contorting themselves into all manner of shapes in order to fit in with some sort of future pro-Russian agenda that they don't seem to quite understand yet.
I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
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They used it very effectively to smear Trump while maintaining a faux level of plausible deniability.Bootstrap wrote: I don't see CNN as particularly trustworthy, but according to The Hill, CNN was much more restrained, stating that it would not publish the allegations because it could not corroborate them.
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That was certainly their goal. I think it backfired on them a bit when most of the other mainline news media even refused to go that far.ragpicker wrote:They used it very effectively to smear Trump while maintaining a faux level of plausible deniability.Bootstrap wrote: I don't see CNN as particularly trustworthy, but according to The Hill, CNN was much more restrained, stating that it would not publish the allegations because it could not corroborate them.
Let's just say that they are slow learners.
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Many Republicans, the CIA, FBI, and NSA want this investigated too.RZehr wrote:This whole Russian hacking story strikes me as a red herring.
The Democrats seem to be using it as an excuse for losing, while in retrospect they probably would have lost anyhow.
While the Republicans seem to be contorting themselves into all manner of shapes in order to fit in with some sort of future pro-Russian agenda that they don't seem to quite understand yet.
I'm not saying it did or didn't happen.
I don't think this is about who won the election. This is the first time I know of that a foreign country selectively released hacked information to influence the result of an American election. I think that's significant no matter which side won. Let's face it, everyone hacks everyone, looking for information, but selectively releasing hacked information like this to influence an American election is a new thing.
And Trump's ties to Russia are very relevant here, especially since he repeatedly denies proven ties, refuses to release basic information like his income taxes, and goes out of his way to praise Putin every chance he gets. I predict that during the next phases of investigation, we will learn more about these ties and Trump's financial interests.
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On Russia, you mean? Until recently, I think there's been broad consensus on Russia across party lines. Harry Enten did a great article on this at FiveThirtyEight:RZehr wrote:I haven't looked at the evidence at all. I don't really care enough about it to do so, but I do read headlines. It does seem odd to me that the two parties seem to have done backflips and now are singing the other parties traditional tune.
All Of A Sudden, Russia Has Become A Partisan Issue
Basically, American views of Russia have shifted up and down a lot over the years, but there's been very little difference between Democrats and Republicans at any given time. Until recently.
Suddenly, Trump is praising Putin and Russia at a time that most Americans see it as a danger, and Russia is a partisan issue in a way that it has not been.
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Perhaps the Lord would be honoured to see America trying to make peace instead of war with Russia.
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