Judas Maccabeus wrote:temporal1 wrote:
personally, i don’t doubt your statement about life-threatening cases.
even tho i have read credible statements to the contrary.
If you are thinking of the most famous one, it was C Everet Koop, MD, "I have never seen such a case in my 40 years of practice."
No joke, he was a Pediatric cardiac surgeon.
The people that see this most frequently are the Medical oncologists and High risk perinatologists. One of the latter is a very good friend, and a committed christian. She just about popped a cork when she heard that.
J.M.
Dr Koop’s statement was at the top of my list.
i didn’t name names, havng no sources at hand. but, his statement, and notoriety, are memorable.
evenso, i have lived long enough to have seen a few things IRL.
we knew one young family in which the young wife was diagnosed with an aggressive breast cancer when she was 3 months pregnant. they had a two year old girl. she went through with the pregnancy, delivered a healthy boy. she did not live long after, leaving grieving husband+family. i have no idea if abortion was considered (by anyone.) i have no idea if her chances of beating the cancer would have improved .. abortion was never mentioned.
we had friends who had a late pregnancy. in the 1980’s. she was asked if she would have amniocentesis (to check for Down Syndrome.) she told me privately, she would not. she said, the test had some risks to the infant, it couldn’t be done early, AND, why do it, when she+her husband would refuse to abort, anyway? .. i felt the same. that was before sonograms were used (early+often) .. before lots of things. we were just young families then. they both had advanced degrees.
they had a normal, healthy baby girl.
we had 3 early spontaneous abortions, never had an inkling as to “why?” all but unknown in our families. we had 2 healthy living babies, now 30-40’s. i never thought about “what if?” .. only, whatever baby we had, we would love and care for, “condition”+all. we did not “count fingers+toes,” however many they had, they were ours to love. the doctors did what doctors do, they told us the babies were healthy+thriving. we counted our blessings.
our babies were not planned. but, very much welcomed.
of my generation and older, who was planned? other than, you were married, if babies resulted, then, you had babies. birth control pills became newly available-for married couples. we did not use them.
babies change everything. that’s “the” plan. the plan the world turned on, in most of history.
it seemed, “everyone” knew of some surprise baby that may not have been wanted initially, but, that turned out to be the family’s greatest joy. this was a common story.
abortion now used as a chosen form of birth control has become reality, but, for many, remains impossible to accept as such.
strange how free/cheap birth control pills “for everyone,” now including children, did NOT end abortions, at all. when they first surfaced, women dreamed of what a huge improvement they would be - for married couples, of course.
i have to believe, if those early folks had known how quickly those pills, and all that results because of them, would make their way to unmarrieds, even to teens+children, they might have been banned from the get-go, rather than “the stuff of married life dreams.” (i.e., they began as a dream for many. societal nightmares have resulted.)