Really?
Saying we need to listen to what black people are saying and have empathy for them too is "elitist" and "racist"? I would have thought the opposite.
Really?
Actually, we seem to be very far from looking at how Jesus related to Samaritans and lepers and sinners and outcasts and asking how we can do the same. And very far from looking at the history of the New Testament Church or the teaching of Deuteronomy or the prophets.
He seems to be paying attention particularly to Ibram Kendi and other fairly extreme and non-Christian people. I did not see any serious attempt to look at the range of CRT teaching - which is admittedly hard to do.Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 7:06 pm Voddie Baucham takes a closer look at their fundamental principles and lists these four features of the CRT worldview:
In all honestly, if the people who express these concerns about cultural Marxism had lots of examples of congregations that have an allergy to critical race theory but are leading the way in cultivating and practicing a faith that addresses the past and present challenges of race, I would be more inclined to take their warnings seriously. As far as I can tell, these people are not leading the way toward cultivating a gospel unity. Instead, I see the act of using the label “cultural Marxism” as a smokescreen or diversionary tactic that forestalls both the reckoning required to contend with theological-ethical failures on race and the subsequent work to pursue new paths of Christian discipleship.
It’s a lot easier to fight culture wars than it is to build relationships across ethnic and class divides. Therefore, we fight culture wars.
It’s clear you are convinced you’re uniquely right, and you’ve made it clear on this forum (for 10 years i’ve been present).
temporal1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:48 am “ Fatherlessness Can Be Fatal”
https://illinoisfamilyaction.org/2021/0 ... -be-fatal/
Written by Dr. Jerry Newcombe
There were more mass shootings in Chicago last weekend. The irony of these shootings, in which 54 were shot and 8 died, is the weekend itself….Father’s Day weekend.
Some sociologists note that what we’re seeing in large part are quite often the results of fatherlessness in America.
Mark J. Perry, a scholar with American Enterprise Institute, put out a chart on March 30, 2021 on fatherlessness in America. He compiled the statistics from the National Center for Health Statistics, and the chart compares the “percentage of U.S. births to unmarried women by race” for the year 2019.
The chart notes that:
11.7% of Asian births in America were to unwed mothers,
28.2% to white mothers,
40% for all races,
52% for Hispanics,
69% for Americans Indians,
70% for Blacks.
That explains a lot. The breakdown of the family in America is one of the leading causes of societal breakdown.
The cliché is correct: “As the family goes, so goes society.”
Fathers can make a huge difference in the life of their children, and their absence can lead to all manner of problems.
African-American leaders are expressing concern.
John Diggs, M.D. of Massachusetts once talked with me about the devastation wrought by the breakdown of the family.
About 15 years ago, Dr. Diggs told me in an interview for Christian television that the seeds of fatherlessness were sown in the sexual revolution: “Social science has borne out that all the bad effects associated with sex outside of marriage have increased under this paradigm. For example, you can look in the Black community. If you look at 1960, it was on the order of 5 out of 100 children were born out-of-wedlock. Now that number is something on the order of 60 out of 100. And once you get that kind of number, the whole society tends to break down.”
Tragically, that 60% has now increased to 70% as noted in the chart cited above.
Diggs continued, “Marriage has a very important function. It gets people to commit to each other even when they don’t want to, even when they don’t like each other for some short period of time. It’s financially better to have a mother and father in the house where you have two different personalities, two different orientations in terms of maleness and femaleness affecting both the child, both the girl and the boy. And I think, clearly, the crisis of fatherlessness can be laid at the feet of the sexual revolution.”
He said one of the biggest problems with all this is viewing the father as “expendable.”
And who fills in the gap? Uncle Sam? The gang leaders?
Of course, many young men become gang-bangers because the gang leader becomes surrogate fathers for them.
The Bible warns: Bad company corrupts good morals.
And the whole thing becomes a vicious cycle.
And then on top of all this:
welfare transfer payments reward those who bear children out of wedlock and punish those households where the father remains. We get what the government subsidizes. What a tragic nightmare. Fatherlessness can be fatal.
To compound all this are those on the left who are saying we need to defund the police.
Civil Rights leader Robert Woodson thinks that is a terrible idea.
Woodson created the Woodson Center in Washington, D.C., which has had many years of providing effective help for inner-city communities.
A Gallup Poll backs up Woodson. The pollsters found that 81% of Blacks do not favor defunding the police.
Noted Woodson: “The people who are advocating hostile actions against police do not have to suffer the consequences of their advocacy. They live in gated communities; they live where they are protected.”
Woodson added, “This battle is critical to our future. I don’t think we have been this close to just anarchy that you see this assault on police. It is resulting in withdrawal from some of the most high crime areas. As a result, murder is soaring in some of these cities, and it’s directly related to the nullification of policing.”
Woodson remembered when Black families used to be a model for the rest of the nation.
He said, “From1930-1940, during America’s 10 years of depression, when racism was enshrined in law, elderly people could walk safely in their community without fear of assault because of our faith in Christ and also our marriage—
we had the highest marriage rate of any group…that has been our history.”
Ultimately, a spiritual renewal is what is needed to turn things, including fatherlessness, around.
Woodson told me, “As a country, we must seek redemption and understand that we need to be all that we can be as a nation.
If we were to mimic Christ and understand the importance of our future, it depends upon redemption and restoration.”
Falco, just a heads up: I did not write that quote above.Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:19 pmAbsolutely not. (I'm not too good at definitions.)
Please provide one for us. What is the commonly accepted definition of CRT?
My neighbors of various races, Bible-believing Christian brothers and sisters who are black, and other people I know don't seem elitist or racist to me.temporal1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:25 amIt’s clear you are convinced you’re uniquely right, and you’ve made it clear on this forum (for 10 years i’ve been present).
I have just ordered Vouddie Baucham's new book, Fault Lines. It's on this topic of CRT. I will probably be sharing insights from it sometime next week or the following week.
No problem, I probably mixed that up myself. Never noticed till you mentioned it.Sorry about the confusion!MaxPC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:39 amFalco, just a heads up: I did not write that quote above.Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:19 pmAbsolutely not. (I'm not too good at definitions.)
Please provide one for us. What is the commonly accepted definition of CRT?
i’ve repeated multiple times, i do not follow Fox, never have. i’m less aware of Fox than CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS, BBC - which were part+parcel of my growing up - until months into 2016, when they all became so blatantly partisan, in both “news” and “entertainment,” i couldn’t stand it anymore. i UNPLUGGED satellite TV in 2016 for this reason.boot:
.. ignore the noise from Fox News ..
Both men have written and recorded a lot. i’m ashamed i’m so far behind the curve.Falco Underhill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:59 amI have just ordered [Voddie] Baucham's new book, Fault Lines. It's on this topic of CRT.
I will probably be sharing insights from it sometime next week or the following week.