I can't find very many good pictures; here is one from a church in Canada.
They are worn like a triangle scarf sort of thing. If you have seen traditional Catholic veils they are similar to that (except without the "fancy" styling).
I can't find very many good pictures; here is one from a church in Canada.
For those not familiar, the Apostolic Christian Churches in my area tend to wear the type of headcovering pictured here:
Do Apostolics hold any beliefs, values, or practices that would be objectionable to conservative Anabaptists?Ernie wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 11:44 amYes, there is quite a variety among Apostolics, just like Mennonites.mike wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:38 amI barely know anything about Apostolics.Josh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 10:37 am
My exposure to both ACs and AC-Nazareans is that they practice modest dress. The ACs practice the head covering at all times. Nazareans may or may not wear it all day. Their modest dress is of the skirts and shirts variety similar to what some homeschoolers do.
They are either at the level of or stricter than the more liberal wings of BMA, Charity, and Beachys (particularly ADC)... it seems questionable to criticise AC or Nazarean practice when the entire Beachy constituency is still considered "conservative Mennonite".
All Apostolic men where suits and ties that I am aware of.
Headcovering consists of a small band fastened on the top of the head. Most Apostolics disapprove of anyone wearing a larger covering such as a black scarf. (Similar to many Mennonite churches disapproving of ladies wearing an opaque cap.)
Some apostolics where large white lacy veils for Sunday and small bands during the week.
I object to their permanent use of excommunication. You fall into a death sin, repent from it, you never can partake in communion or serve in any role again.
The ACC explicitly stopped doing this and in practice the AC-Nazarene church doesn’t do this. The ACF split and a few other tiny very strict sects still do.Soloist wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:58 amI object to their permanent use of excommunication. You fall into a death sin, repent from it, you never can partake in communion or serve in any role again.
You are welcome to attend but basically as a permanent non-member. Given none of the members were in this state when we visited (and knowing there is generally at least one person who has fallen into something) I suspect the practice leads to more hidden sin because the cost of confession is made higher then what God or Paul’ teaching indicated.
Well the group we visited in Oregon said they recently split but that both the “liberal” and themselves still practiced it.Josh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 8:45 amThe ACC explicitly stopped doing this and in practice the AC-Nazarene church doesn’t do this. The ACF split and a few other tiny very strict sects still do.Soloist wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:58 amI object to their permanent use of excommunication. You fall into a death sin, repent from it, you never can partake in communion or serve in any role again.
You are welcome to attend but basically as a permanent non-member. Given none of the members were in this state when we visited (and knowing there is generally at least one person who has fallen into something) I suspect the practice leads to more hidden sin because the cost of confession is made higher then what God or Paul’ teaching indicated.
That's odd (I assume you visited an ACF group?), since that was specifically what the ACC-ACF split was over.
I don’t remember, they indicated there was a number of reasons.
Most Apostolics do not believe they are the only church, but they believe their way is the only way. (their terminology)
Don't many conservative Anabaptists believe the same though?
Yes. This would make them similar to Old Orders and similar to ultra conservative groups.Most Apostolics want to be left alone to practice their faith as they wish, and they feel like outsiders are always asking them direct questions about their beliefs. They prefer not needing to defend their beliefs to those who don't understand their culture.
Yes. The AFC is extremely sectarian. The other group (I think you mean the Doraslavic group) is even more sectarian to an extreme, about the same as Orthodox Mennonites. These groups are fringe and do not constitute the bulk of ACs.As I understand it,
The Apostolic Faith church will rebaptize anyone, including those who come from other Apostolic churches.
The Christian Apostolic Church will rebaptize anyone who did not come from an Apostolic church.
Yes. This is the same as groups like German Baptists. It would be objectionable to Amish and Mennonites but not really objectionable to all conservative Anabaptists (I don't think it makes sense to say GBs and ACs are "objectionable to conservative Anabaptists", since they both constitute a large fraction of CAs.)And the Apostolic Christian Church of America will rebaptize anyone who was not immersed/submersed.
Yes, that is correct, ACs basically have almost exactly the same practices around marriage as Holdemans.Apostolics don't require that divorced and remarried people separate, if they were married prior to conversion.
Yes. This is a marked deviation from other CAs and probably the most significant difference.Apostolics allow for non-combatant service in the military.
Doesn't BMA do this too?And as mentioned earlier...
Men where long neck ties.
At this point, Beachys (at least where I live), Charity people, and some BMA people do this. As I understand it BMA has actually been trying to deal with this, but the Beachy coverings are about the same size as CMC coverings used to be or smaller. I recently saw one that is smaller than anything an AC person would wear.Most women wear a small symbol of a head-covering as pictured earlier in this thread.