Christian Fads
- Wayne in Maine
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- JimFoxvog
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Re: Christian Fads
Quite a long-lived fad, as Paul spent a lot of time dealing with it in 1 Corinthians.Wayne in Maine wrote:Speaking in tongues.
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- Wayne in Maine
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Re: Christian Fads
Speaking in unknown languages seems to have ceased with the Apostolic age. Glossolalia (modern tongues speaking) traces its origins to the Azuza Street "revival" in 1906. I call it a fad because almost every church denomination has practitioners and it tends to pop up in popular religious movements (the Toronto Blessing, The Jesus Freaks, Catholic Charismatic Renewal) with regularity.JimFoxvog wrote:Quite a long-lived fad, as Paul spent a lot of time dealing with it in 1 Corinthians.Wayne in Maine wrote:Speaking in tongues.
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- gcdonner
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Re: Christian Fads
The opinions expressed above are not held by all here on MN...Wayne in Maine wrote:Speaking in unknown languages seems to have ceased with the Apostolic age. Glossolalia (modern tongues speaking) traces its origins to the Azuza Street "revival" in 1906. I call it a fad because almost every church denomination has practitioners and it tends to pop up in popular religious movements (the Toronto Blessing, The Jesus Freaks, Catholic Charismatic Renewal) with regularity.JimFoxvog wrote:Quite a long-lived fad, as Paul spent a lot of time dealing with it in 1 Corinthians.Wayne in Maine wrote:Speaking in tongues.
I guess we could call it a fad in the same vein as Anabaptists? Actually tongues speaking has been going on consistently through the ages, so it outdistances the Anabaptist movement...or beards without mustaches...
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- Wayne in Maine
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Re: Christian Fads
The Pew Research center has determined that at present over a quarter of Christians worldwide (584 million of 2 billion) are Charismatic and Pentecostals. I don't see any indication that historically 1/4 of all Christians consistently spoke in tongues. From the 2'nd century to the 20th there were rare and obscure reports of the phenomena. Since 1907 it has grown in some areas and has been diminishing in others, was never in history as prominent as in the 20th century. That sounds like a fad to me.gcdonner wrote:The opinions expressed above are not held by all here on MN...Wayne in Maine wrote:Speaking in unknown languages seems to have ceased with the Apostolic age. Glossolalia (modern tongues speaking) traces its origins to the Azuza Street "revival" in 1906. I call it a fad because almost every church denomination has practitioners and it tends to pop up in popular religious movements (the Toronto Blessing, The Jesus Freaks, Catholic Charismatic Renewal) with regularity.JimFoxvog wrote: Quite a long-lived fad, as Paul spent a lot of time dealing with it in 1 Corinthians.
I guess we could call it a fad in the same vein as Anabaptists? Actually tongues speaking has been going on consistently through the ages, so it outdistances the Anabaptist movement...or beards without mustaches...
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Re: Christian Fads
What is "visualization"?gcdonner wrote:Visualization
The shepherding movement
Bill Gothard
Denny Kenniston
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- ohio jones
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Re: Christian Fads
You've probably heard of "name it and claim it." Visualization is "see it and be it."KingdomBuilder wrote:What is "visualization"?
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- gcdonner
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Re: Christian Fads
There was a movement in the 80s-90s that focused on visualizing your concepts, even visualizing Jesus and if you did it long enough and well enough then your visualization would begin to interact with you. OJ put it pretty succinctly I'd say. It was a part of the Charismatic movement.KingdomBuilder wrote:What is "visualization"?gcdonner wrote:Visualization
The shepherding movement
Bill Gothard
Denny Kenniston
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- gcdonner
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Re: Christian Fads
"Without faith it is impossible to please God..."Wayne in Maine wrote:gcdonner wrote:Wayne in Maine wrote: The Pew Research center has determined that at present over a quarter of Christians worldwide (584 million of 2 billion) are Charismatic and Pentecostals. I don't see any indication that historically 1/4 of all Christians consistently spoke in tongues. From the 2'nd century to the 20th there were rare and obscure reports of the phenomena. Since 1907 it has grown in some areas and has been diminishing in others, was never in history as prominent as in the 20th century. That sounds like a fad to me.
Nobody is making you believe it, but you will never prove it or disprove it any more than you can the born-again experience or any spiritual phenomenon. As long as you view it only from a "scientific" perspective, it will never be real for you. That is your choice.
Paul said to desire spiritual gifts...'nuff said.
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Re: Christian Fads
Good link there. I don't listen to a wide variety of online teachers, but the only one I've ever heard mention things along those lines would be Greg Boyd.ohio jones wrote:You've probably heard of "name it and claim it." Visualization is "see it and be it."KingdomBuilder wrote:What is "visualization"?
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