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Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:45 am
by Hats Off
In our hymn book we skip your last verse and add two more:
Verse 11
His vestment of righteousness who shall ascribe?
Its purity words would defile;
The Heavens from His presence fresh beauties imbibe
And earth is made rich by His smile.
Verse 12
Such is my beloved, in excellence bright,
When pleased, He looks down from above,
(Like the morn when it breathes from the chambers of light,)
And comforts His people with love.
It is listed as a Meter 15, with tune name of Beloved and is the only Meter 15 in our book. We don't often use it, possibly because of its length and the tune we sing is a single meter so we repeat it 12 times. As well the tune we use is slightly awkward.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:46 am
by Heirbyadoption
Hats Off wrote:In our hymn book we skip your last verse and add two more:
Verse 11
His vestment of righteousness who shall ascribe?
Its purity words would defile;
The Heavens from His presence fresh beauties imbibe
And earth is made rich by His smile.
Verse 12
Such is my beloved, in excellence bright,
When pleased, He looks down from above,
(Like the morn when it breathes from the chambers of light,)
And comforts His people with love.
It is listed as a Meter 15, with tune name of Beloved and is the only Meter 15 in our book. We don't often use it, possibly because of its length and the tune we sing is a single meter so we repeat it 12 times. As well the tune we use is slightly awkward.
Our common tune is a single as well,
https://hymnary.org/media/fetch/87761, but we get around that occasionally by using Old Rugged Cross, It is Well With My Soul, There's A City of Light, or a couple of tunes that fit to Oh How Happy Are They. And I know what you mean - if you have a slow starter (and/or a draggy crowd), using a single verse tune is almost painful.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:54 am
by Hats Off
The notes you show is the tune we would normally use on those words.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:32 pm
by Heirbyadoption
Hats Off wrote:The notes you show is the tune we would normally use on those words.
Maybe you said and I have forgotten, but are you using the standard OOM hymnbook or another? And if so, do you A. find singing to be a little less polished than your typical Menno singing (with a leader up front with pitchpipe, arm in the air, and purple Martin in hand), and B. have less four part harmony in general?
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:57 pm
by Hats Off
We use the little hymn book called "A Collection of Psalms and Hymns suited to the various occasions of public worship and private devotion" compiled by a committee of Mennonites. The Weaverland and Wisler churches use the same book. The singing is certainly less polished - the song leaders wouldn't all know what to do with a pitch pipe, much less know why they were swinging their arms. Without notes, we also find that the four parts are not as strong. Typically when we sing at weddings or other gatherings, we the Christian Hymnal, still without a pitch pipe or time beating. The four part harmony is better since we do have the notes. I don't think I have ever been present where the purple Martin was used.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:14 pm
by KingdomBuilder
Heirbyadoption wrote:Good to know. I had only ever seen this version in a couple of LDS hymnals that I have.
Glad I'm not the only one who enjoys studying various groups' hymns
I came across a pretty unique, exclusively LDS, hymn.. Verse 3 is the most LDS of them all, I'd say, but I can get over it.
Israel, Israel, God is calling
Israel, Israel, God is calling,
Calling thee from lands of woe.
Babylon the great is falling;
God shall all her tow'rs o'erthrow.
Come to Zion, come to Zion
Ere his floods of anger flow.
Come to Zion, come to Zion
Ere his floods of anger flow.
Israel, Israel, God is speaking.
Hear your great Deliv'rer's voice!
Now a glorious morn is breaking
For the people of his choice.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
And within her walls rejoice.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
And within her walls rejoice.
Israel, angels are descending
From celestial worlds on high,
And to man their pow'r extending,
That the Saints may homeward fly.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
For your coming Lord is nigh.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
For your coming Lord is nigh.
Israel! Israel! Canst thou linger
Still in error's gloomy ways?
Mark how judgment's pointing finger
Justifies no vain delays.
Come to Zion, come to Zion!
Zion's walls shall ring with praise.
Come to Zion, come to Zion!
Zion's walls shall ring with praise.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:04 am
by Heirbyadoption
KingdomBuilder wrote:Heirbyadoption wrote:Good to know. I had only ever seen this version in a couple of LDS hymnals that I have.
Glad I'm not the only one who enjoys studying various groups' hymns
I came across a pretty unique, exclusively LDS, hymn.. Verse 3 is the most LDS of them all, I'd say, but I can get over it.
Israel, Israel, God is calling
Israel, Israel, God is calling,
Calling thee from lands of woe.
Babylon the great is falling;
God shall all her tow'rs o'erthrow.
Come to Zion, come to Zion
Ere his floods of anger flow.
Come to Zion, come to Zion
Ere his floods of anger flow.
Israel, Israel, God is speaking.
Hear your great Deliv'rer's voice!
Now a glorious morn is breaking
For the people of his choice.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
And within her walls rejoice.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
And within her walls rejoice.
Israel, angels are descending
From celestial worlds on high,
And to man their pow'r extending,
That the Saints may homeward fly.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
For your coming Lord is nigh.
Come to Zion, come to Zion,
For your coming Lord is nigh.
Israel! Israel! Canst thou linger
Still in error's gloomy ways?
Mark how judgment's pointing finger
Justifies no vain delays.
Come to Zion, come to Zion!
Zion's walls shall ring with praise.
Come to Zion, come to Zion!
Zion's walls shall ring with praise.
Certainly a little more bearable (with the aforementioned exception) than
Hail To The Man or
If I Could Hie To Kolob, lol.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:55 am
by KingdomBuilder
Heirbyadoption wrote:Certainly a little more bearable (with the aforementioned exception) than Hail To The Man or If I Could Hie To Kolob, lol.
I use "Hail to The Man" quite frequently as a "proof text" to show what Mormonism is really about... It's out there for sure.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:35 am
by Heirbyadoption
I cringe to hear Scotland The Brave sung to such drivel, but yes, it does offer a good picture into LDS theology. Similarly with Hie To Kolob being laid atop such a historically rich tune like Star Of The County Down.
And I do apologize, it's Praise To The Man, I believe, not Hail.
Re: Hymn Share
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:23 am
by KingdomBuilder
[quote="Heirbyadoption"And I do apologize, it's
Praise To The Man, I believe, not Hail.[/quote]
I believe you're right. I recall the first line saying "Praise to the Man who communed with Jehovah".
Maybe our little error there proves we aren't undercover LDS
