Guess the Cultural "Proverb"

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Re: Guess the Cultural "Proverb"

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silentreader wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:16 pm Is anyone familiar with the proverb re taking a bigger load then you can really handle so that you don't need to make as many trips?
That's what I would call a lazy man's load.
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ken_sylvania wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:23 pm
silentreader wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 1:16 pm Is anyone familiar with the proverb re taking a bigger load then you can really handle so that you don't need to make as many trips?
That's what I would call a lazy man's load.
"An fowla azzel shauft sich dode".
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Neto: ok to add this?
i enjoyed his German-accented English (and his lively facial expressions) as he responded to PA Dutch. :D

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temporal1 wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:36 pm Neto: ok to add this?
i enjoyed his German-accented English (and his lively facial expressions) as he responded to PA Dutch. :D

Sure, have at it. I listened to the whole thing, even though PA GERMAN is not my own native language. (It is for my wife, and I understand it to a somewhat fair degree, and speak somewhat less.) (As I said earlier, I'm trying not to think about the fact that my ancestral villages are now over-run by an invading army. So any diversion is great.)
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Neto:
Sure, have at it. I listened to the whole thing, even though PA GERMAN is not my own native language. (It is for my wife, and I understand it to a somewhat fair degree, and speak somewhat less.)

(As I said earlier, I'm trying not to think about the fact that my ancestral villages are now over-run by an invading army.
So any diversion is great.)

it’s hard not to be distressed, distraught over Ukraine. yesterday was hard for me, probably viewing the documentary on more recent Ukraine didn’t help. it’s very difficult. not knowing how bad, how long, how widespread damage will be is unnerving. i called my family last night just to hear their voices.

i was glad to see this thread, a bit of a diversion. i’m glad negotiations are being attempted. trying to resist getting caught up in any propaganda. expecting everything is propaganda. so much goes on that is never known in full.
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In recent days the daily drumbeat of everything Covid, the vaccinated, the unvaccinated, masks, social distancing, trucker convoys, etc. has been replaced with news about Ukraine/Russia. I, by all means, do not want to diminish either. However a cultural proverb came to mind, one that I heard my mother say many times.

"Everybody will be talking about it, until a dog with a longer tail comes along".
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Grace wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:25 am In recent days the daily drumbeat of everything Covid, the vaccinated, the unvaccinated, masks, social distancing, trucker convoys, etc. has been replaced with news about Ukraine/Russia. I, by all means, do not want to diminish either. However a cultural proverb came to mind, one that I heard my mother say many times.

"Everybody will be talking about it, until a dog with a longer tail comes along".
Thank you for bringing a smile to my face, and laughter to my spirit.
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As for the mysterious "schwatze frau", I have a hypothesis.
In German there is the verb "schwätzen" (dict.cc gives me: twaddle,bable,gabble,schmooze, blather, prate, gossip) which also exists in Pennsylvania Dutch. Germans have a derived adjective "schwatzhaft" (talkative). A similar adjective may have existed in Penns. Dutch, too, and when it was lost, people confused it with "schwatz" = black.
The meaning would have been:
Life is a serious matter,and if you look out for unreasonable merriment now (like singing at the table) and later on you look for your wife the same way, you will get a wife who talks a lot and doesn't work a lot - which will be a heavy burden on your shoulders.
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googled translation:
you grigsht a shvatze woman
which hits my funny bone this morning. :lol:
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Re: Guess the Cultural "Proverb"

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PetrChelcicky wrote: Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:46 am As for the mysterious "schwatze frau", I have a hypothesis.
In German there is the verb "schwätzen" (dict.cc gives me: twaddle,bable,gabble,schmooze, blather, prate, gossip) which also exists in Pennsylvania Dutch. Germans have a derived adjective "schwatzhaft" (talkative). A similar adjective may have existed in Penns. Dutch, too, and when it was lost, people confused it with "schwatz" = black.
The meaning would have been:
Life is a serious matter,and if you look out for unreasonable merriment now (like singing at the table) and later on you look for your wife the same way, you will get a wife who talks a lot and doesn't work a lot - which will be a heavy burden on your shoulders.
Interesting. You then come out with the same meaning as the way I've heard it in English (which I assume was a translation from Plautdietsch) - "lazy".
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