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Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:54 am
by MaxPC
Hurricane Katia in the Gulf is on the verge of becoming a Cat 3 and will hit Mexico tomorrow. Mexico just experienced an 8.1 earthquake that also triggered a tsunami.

Busy season.

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:37 am
by KingdomBuilder
Valerie wrote:Is this God doing all this? 11 states on fire (and into Canada)
Hurricanes
Mexico just had an 8.1 earthquake-

Coincidence?
Global warming?

God????
I know quite a few who feel that this event (and others past, like Katrina) were are exposition of God's wrath. I don't see how that view aligns with the New Covenant mode of operation.
Not talking about Valerie, just talking about what I've heard from friends and relatives.

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:52 am
by Soloist
KingdomBuilder wrote: I know quite a few who feel that this event (and others past, like Katrina) were are exposition of God's wrath. I don't see how that view aligns with the New Covenant mode of operation.
Not talking about Valerie, just talking about what I've heard from friends and relatives.
My problem with the Katrina storm being God's wrath deals with Bourbon street being left high and dry. If it truly was God's wrath, why did the epicenter of sin in New Orleans be left high and dry?
The rain falls on the just and the unjust.

Also, some people don't really think about it, but new orleans is about 7 foot under water and sinking. Also we diverted the Mississippi river. The original French city there was built on solid ground and no diverting of the river. In other words, the French quarter was built with planning. Most hurricanes are so destructive because of where we chose to build. A coastal resort built in 10 year flood zone is destroyed by flood waters... who would have thought that would happen? most of these destructive things happen to houses built in 100 year or less flood zones.
This isn't really any different then people building on major fault lines. You reap what you sow.

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:06 am
by Bootstrap
Here's the current projected path of the storm from the National Hurricane Center, which gives a pretty good idea what is supposed to hit where when.
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Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:16 am
by Bootstrap
These graphics shows the probabilities of high winds hitting various places.

74 mph or more (hurricane force):
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39 mph or more (tropical storm force):
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Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 12:10 pm
by Robert
Irma and the two following it.

Image

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:29 pm
by MaxPC
Great photo, Robert. It shows the sheer size of Irma relative to Katia and Jose. All of our friends and family are safe from the storm, thanks be to God.

12 minutes after the 8.1 quake, an aftershock of 5.7 hit. There have been approximately 13 aftershocks. 30 counted dead so far. The quake was strong enough to have people fleeing in Mexico City, which is 650 miles away from the epicenter.

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:18 pm
by MaxPC
Hurricane Jose is now Cat 4. It's moving closer to Irma.

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:07 pm
by Sudsy
Valerie wrote:We read through Amos today-

Is this God doing all this? 11 states on fire (and into Canada)
Hurricanes
Mexico just had an 8.1 earthquake-

Coincidence?
Global warming?

God????

I heard someone blaming the devil for the weather-
But Amos, prophet of God, refers weather situations to God-
Do people even consider Him anymore in all this? I don't know-
I recommend viewing this sermon on how the OT appears to be saying that God does terrible things in on-going judgment on humanity (like an Irma) and how this understanding of God is so unlike Jesus who is the true picture of God. As Greg puts it 'God is Love' and so looking at what the OT writers wrote must be viewed as not as literal as it, at that time, appeared. Jesus comes along to reflect what God is truly about.

Re: Now Irma: Super-cane

Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:51 am
by Valerie
Sudsy wrote:
Valerie wrote:We read through Amos today-

Is this God doing all this? 11 states on fire (and into Canada)
Hurricanes
Mexico just had an 8.1 earthquake-

Coincidence?
Global warming?

God????

I heard someone blaming the devil for the weather-
But Amos, prophet of God, refers weather situations to God-
Do people even consider Him anymore in all this? I don't know-
I recommend viewing this sermon on how the OT appears to be saying that God does terrible things in on-going judgment on humanity (like an Irma) and how this understanding of God is so unlike Jesus who is the true picture of God. As Greg puts it 'God is Love' and so looking at what the OT writers wrote must be viewed as not as literal as it, at that time, appeared. Jesus comes along to reflect what God is truly about.
I know a lot of people are at least thinking about God right now that don't usually give Him much thought- God's wrath will be poured out on mankind in the end- and He will save His Bride- Jesus will appear in a way He had not before- we will see a side of them, He did not reveal when He came to seek that which was lost- but regarding these weather situations, I hope that people are at least turning their cares into prayers-

I'm mindful of 9/11 which that anniversary is coming- and churches were full for about 6 months, then business as usual- so it is when people feel safe again, but I do see a lot of comments about this on social media- people wondering- flooding, hurricanes, major earthquake, 11 states on fire- all at the same time- they seem to be 'talking about it' in light of Divine Providence-