Most human beings across the political spectrum share that opinion. The real debate is about what restrictions are needed - and to a large extent, about what restrictions were already in place. So saying you disagree with those who think a government can set up immigration restrictions is a lot like saying you disagree with those who think refugees should be subjected to torture. Very few people believe either of these things. If you want to have a policy discussion, it's best to discuss what specific people are actually saying, including mainstream views across the spectrum.Josh wrote:Most conservative Anabaptists that I know who share their political opinions would be of the opinion that a government can set up immigration restrictions.
But if conservative Anabaptism gets conflated with political opinions, I fear for conservative Anabaptism.
Who do you have in mind? That's clearly not what Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama believe, or anybody I know anywhere on the political spectrum who has served in the Department of State. You can see lively debates on how best to control the borders at foreignpolicy.com or on lawfare.com, including people across the spectrum, and "wide-open borders" is an option practically nobody ever discusses. Even very left-wing people like Bernie Sanders say they want to secure the border.Josh wrote:Generally speaking, CAs are not in agreement with left-wing politicians who want wide open borders.
It's hard to have a sane discussion by shouting negative stereotypes at the other side. Not sure we need to discuss this on MN, but if we do, I'd suggest we pull out some informative articles on the various policies that have been seriously proposed.
I'm not posting this here because I particularly want to debate this, I am posting this here so we can discuss conservative Anabaptists vs. white separatists in the other thread, and discuss bunny trails elsewhere if we need to discuss them at all.