Sudsy wrote:GaryK wrote:
I think the best way to to begin a conversation about an event like Charlottesville is to not begin with Charlottesville and work backward to see what all went wrong to bring us to a point like Charlottesville. Rather we should start from the premise that human beings without Jesus always have and always will act like they did in Charlottesville. It's not something new. The solution is not ultimately a political one. When Christians pretty much say what politicians, journalists, and ideologues say on issues like this, regardless of the side, I think there is a fundamental problem with understanding the nature of the Kingdom where Jesus is King.
John D Martin says something like this: "Our job as followers of Jesus is to show the world what it would look like if the whole world would follow the teachings of Jesus".
I think this is heading in the right direction GaryK if we really want to consider what we should be doing. I would add in showing the world we need to be involved in explaining to the world who Jesus is and why He is the solution to these situations. Why is it that Anabaptists here are not focusing in on the sin issue that plagues mankind ? This occurrence is just one of many manifestations of sin and it's destructive force.
How can we insist on leaders speaking out against certain forms of sin when we, ourselves, are too afraid to speak out and share the solution to the sin problem. Do we really believe Jesus gives us power over sin now, delivers us from death that sin will bring and He will, some day, remove us from the very presence of sin ? If we do, then isn't this what the Gospel is all about ?
Jesus is our King and the nature of His Kingdom is to overcome sin and enter a life now of love, joy and peace in the Holy Spirit. We don't have to get involved in how the world deals with this issue for we know their answers will not solve the base problem and can only provide, at best, temporary band aid solutions.
Perhaps I've been in an evangelical environment too long over the years to be Anabaptist. I'm trying to figure out just what Anabaptists really believe about reaching the lost. Perhaps someone can help clear up my thinking here ? It just seems to me that the answer is obvious in what we are to do.
If Charlottesville points to a fundamental need in unsaved people's lives then it's the unsaved that we should be focused on rather than the huge issue that is now Charlottesville. My opining on what should have/could have been in Charlottesville really can't and won't fix what has been a common problem for millennia as first evidenced in the book of Genesis. If we are sold on this idea that the Kingdom of Jesus is the answer to humanity's underlying need then we WILL be involved in showing the other kingdom what a Kingdom of Christ followers is like and we will be busy trying to bring others into this Kingdom.
The next Charlottesville could be Thomaston, GA. If I can be instrumental in pointing one or two people toward this Kingdom, that's one or two more in Thomaston that have joined a cause that shows the TRUE way of peace. Who knows but that those one or two more could be what keeps Charlottesville from happening in Thomaston. That's something no president, political party or secular group can ever accomplish. And history has proven quite clearly IMO that the hybrid of having one foot in one kingdom and one in the other doesn't accomplish it either.