Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?

[MattY]

People who think they can identify any specific Antichrist in 21st Century America should be given exactly as much credence as those who think they can predict the exact date of the rapture or second coming.

Namely...zero.

What a surprise, Ken and I actually agree on something.

I remember as a very young person that Henrey Kissinger was the supposed Anti-Christ. Before that it was JFK. And of course we can't forget Mikhail Gorbachev, after all he had a mysterious red mark on his forehead (it was a birthmark). Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan were deemed the anti-Christ. Some even thought Barney the Dinosaur was the anti-Christ because “cute purple dinosaur” in ancient Latin characters, it is “CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR.”. They extracted the Roman numbers, added all the numerals together and the result was 666.

In 1988 Some guy did a bunch of math equations and came up with the claim that the rapture would take place in 1988. He even wrote a book, "88 reasons Christ will return in 1988".

It is a big planet of 7.9 BILLION people.

Interesting how they usually seem to be Americans (or American TV characters). And never some random dictator in Pakistan or Libya or someplace closer to the Holy Land. Which suggests an obvious bias on the part of the American authors who are coming up with this stuff.

Yes, I completely agree.

[Valerie]

How does he come up with 15 Bible verses about the Antichrist when the Antichrist is only mentioned 4 times in the entire Bible and solely in the 1st and 2nd epistles of John?

There is a motif found through various books of Scripture, especially prophecy, of a powerful opponent of God (a human ruler, distinct from Satan) who will arise in the last days. Sometimes it's read into too many passages, but the motif is definitely found in Daniel, Revelation, and 2nd Thessalonians, in addition to 1st and 2nd John. So it's more than just the verses that directly mention "Antichrist", that's just a term that John used. But opinions on how to interpret the motif vary.

I agree with this much but definitely not DJT fitting the position. I remember people thinking it was Obama. I like Grace, remember the accusation it might be Henry Kissinger.

We have to be careful, lest we be poor witnesses of truth.
There will be THE Antichrist among antichrists but it sure is isn't DJT.

[Ken]

How does he come up with 15 Bible verses about the Antichrist when the Antichrist is only mentioned 4 times in the entire Bible and solely in the 1st and 2nd epistles of John?

There is a motif found through various books of Scripture, especially prophecy, of a powerful opponent of God (a human ruler, distinct from Satan) who will arise in the last days. Sometimes it's read into too many passages, but the motif is definitely found in Daniel, Revelation, and 2nd Thessalonians, in addition to 1st and 2nd John. So it's more than just the verses that directly mention "Antichrist", that's just a term that John used. But opinions on how to interpret the motif vary.

A powerful ruler who opposed God describes about every last evil dictator or military leader the world has seen in the past 2000 years: Attila the Hun, Genghis Kahn, Pol Pot, Stalin, Ivan the Terrible, Jefferson Davis, etc.

The only reason to call any of them an Antichrist is if you think we are in the last days. And there is nothing about the current moment that is much different from any other time in human history. Remember the Bible is a global book not something US-Centric. So we shouldn't get all caught up in what is going on here in the US, which only represents 4% of the world's population.

[Grace]

A powerful ruler who opposed God describes about every last evil dictator or military leader the world has seen in the past 2000 years: Attila the Hun, Genghis Kahn, Pol Pot, Stalin, Ivan the Terrible, Jefferson Davis, etc.

The only reason to call any of them an Antichrist is if you think we are in the last days. And there is nothing about the current moment that is much different from any other time in human history. Remember the Bible is a global book not something US-Centric. So we shouldn't get all caught up in what is going on here in the US, which only represents 4% of the world's population.

Again, I agree with Ken.

I listened to about 3/4 of the video and found many aspects of Trump true. He is a narcissist, braggy, big mouthed, uncouth, unpredictable and loves gaudy gold decor. But the proclamation that Trump would win the 2020 election and would take the nation to war, did not age very well. The most ridiculous was the proclamation that Trump would rebuild the temple, sit in it and put his name on it. Also saying that the "T" in the name Trump signifies the defying of the cross of Christ, was a real stretch.

[Bootstrap]

What is an antichrist? What is The Antichrist? How can we know?

[Josh]

What is an antichrist? What is The Antichrist? How can we know?

He who says that Jesus is not the Christ.

[gcdonner]

Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us."

1 John 2:18-19

He is just one of potentially many.

Are you ignoring the time context?
The anti-christ in the first century was an indicator of it being...not the last days, or the last time, but the last hour! Get it? It's a done deal! Maybe y'all are still waiting for the last minute or the last second 2000 years later?

[Judas Maccabeus]

Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us."

1 John 2:18-19

He is just one of potentially many.

Are you ignoring the time context?
The anti-christ in the first century was an indicator of it being...not the last days, or the last time, but the last hour! Get it? It's a done deal! Maybe y'all are still waiting for the last minute or the last second 2000 years later?

Preterism?I have not heard that one since grad. School. Are you serious or sending me off?

[Josh]

I see J M has not formally met George yet.

[Bootstrap]

Preterism? I have not heard that one since grad. School. Are you serious or sending me off?

George is indeed preterist.

And a lot of preterist thought is more recent than you might think. Check out Google Scholar and Amazon for examples.

I think some prophecies have been fulfilled and others have not been. And that some prophecies can be fulfilled more than once - there are many antichrists, not just one. That's one reason that the Revelation has been relevant to many generations of suffering Christians. And I think a lot remains shrouded in the Revelation ...