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Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:36 am
by temporal1
Franklin wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:00 pm
cooper wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:31 pm Seems like a perfectly normal guy. I can't imagine this ends well.
[media]https://www.youtube
Thanks for this video, this sounds promising. There is nothing worse than normal modern people.
i admit, since 2020, i shudder at the word, “normal,” in U.S. politics. :-|

Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:14 am
by temporal1
2024

Sky News Australia / Javier Milei triumphantly pulls Argentina out of financial ruin / 10min
✏️ Description:
Javier Milei has proven to be Argentina’s saviour.

Before the Libertarian leaders’ ascension to the top job, Argentina was battling record high inflation, widespread poverty and depleted morale.

But Milei has breathed new life into the struggling South American country, turning around its fortunes and renewing hope in the process.

Sky News All-Stars Rita Panahi, Paul Murray, and Rowan Dean take a deep dive into Argentina’s renewal.

Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:29 pm
by RZehr
Argentina formally requested on Thursday to join NATO as a global partner, a status that would clear the way for greater political and security cooperation at a time when the right-wing government of President Javier Milei aims to boost ties with Western powers and attract investment.

The request came as NATO's Deputy General Secretary Mircea Geoana held talks in Brussels on regional security challenges with visiting Argentine Defense Minister Luis Petri.

Geoana said he welcomed Argentina's bid to become an accredited partner in the alliance — a valued role short of “ally” for nations that are not in NATO's geographical area and not required to take part in collective military actions. NATO membership is currently limited to countries of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the United States.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/argentina-as ... 11272.html
Falklands. North Atlantic.

Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:10 pm
by Josh
RZehr wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:29 pm
Argentina formally requested on Thursday to join NATO as a global partner, a status that would clear the way for greater political and security cooperation at a time when the right-wing government of President Javier Milei aims to boost ties with Western powers and attract investment.

The request came as NATO's Deputy General Secretary Mircea Geoana held talks in Brussels on regional security challenges with visiting Argentine Defense Minister Luis Petri.

Geoana said he welcomed Argentina's bid to become an accredited partner in the alliance — a valued role short of “ally” for nations that are not in NATO's geographical area and not required to take part in collective military actions. NATO membership is currently limited to countries of Europe, Turkey, Canada and the United States.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/argentina-as ... 11272.html
Falklands. North Atlantic.
The current nato charter doesn’t allow new members who have irredentist territorial disputes with another member. Of course, they could always change this, but that’s like saying my church could join nato if the members unanimously agreed.

Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:42 pm
by Ken
Argentina should probably work on fixing the Mercosur first. That is a lot more relevant to them than NATO. And it would certainly be more useful economically than ramping up their military spending to match NATO standards. Which they are nowhere close to today.

Of course if they are dead set on being in NATO they can always drop their claims to the Falkland Islands. That would do the trick.

Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:51 pm
by Josh
Ken wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:42 pm Argentina should probably work on fixing the Mercosur first. That is a lot more relevant to them than NATO. And it would certainly be more useful economically than ramping up their military spending to match NATO standards. Which they are nowhere close to today.

Of course if they are dead set on being in NATO they can always drop their claims to the Falkland Islands. That would do the trick.
And at some point, countries with a history of bellicosity who want to join NATO so that... the next time they pick a fight with their neighbours and get invaded, they want the U.S. to foot the bill for their defence. No thanks.

Re: Argentina elects Javier Milei for President

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:52 pm
by Ken
Josh wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:51 pm
Ken wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:42 pm Argentina should probably work on fixing the Mercosur first. That is a lot more relevant to them than NATO. And it would certainly be more useful economically than ramping up their military spending to match NATO standards. Which they are nowhere close to today.

Of course if they are dead set on being in NATO they can always drop their claims to the Falkland Islands. That would do the trick.
And at some point, countries with a history of bellicosity who want to join NATO so that... the next time they pick a fight with their neighbours and get invaded, they want the U.S. to foot the bill for their defence. No thanks.
I don’t think we have anything to worry about. Argentina would need to get their military up to NATO standards such that Argentinian units are capable of operating interchangeably with other NATO units (communications, command structure, logistics, equipment standards, etc.) That would basically mean rebuilding their entire military from the ground up. Which isn’t going to happen for a country as deeply in debt as Argentina. Otherwise it is like a HS football player joining an NFL team. They are more of a hindrance than a help and accomplish nothing but get in the way.