In light of Trump's new? ever or always evolving positions...
Maybe
these guys have some interesting points to consider?
Can any or all of us with various shades of pro-life, anti-abortion views concur with these points made by the linked talking heads?
[Host]"...quite frankly the pro-life movement just wasn't ready. Yeah it feels like they're a little bit like the dog that caught the car and they don't know what to do with it...[] :et's shift from the politics of this to the morality of it, because yeah you've written and spoken recently about - I think the title was "The abortion movement won the legal battle [meaning the Dobbs case] but it may be losing the war" and you frequently have talked about the difference between banning abortion and ending abortion. yeah and it feels like a lot of the rhetoric is still around these legal issues of banning abortion at whatever week you want to mark or the heartbeat bills, whatever and there's a lot less visible or audible rhetoric around ending abortion and some of the more nuanced policies that could actually lower the demand for abortion. So talk pragmatic ways to reduce abortion - about the moral side of this for those of us who are pro-life and care more about actually ending abortion or reducing the number rather than just what laws are on the books. Where do you think our energy should be going right now?
[French] "Yeah, as we think about candidates... policies...whether local state or federal I think you have to acknowledge a reality that says that for much of the culture, not only has the pro-life movement lost the argument - it's been routed...[] So you're really beginning from square one in a lot of places in the United States of America and and square one is quite literally, 'I'm not a hateful person' - okay That's how square one we are because the marriage of the pro-life and the mind meld of the pro-life movement to the Maga movement and to Donald Trump has really done extraordinary harm to the notion that the pro-life movement tried to cultivate for decades... which is, 'we're a movement rooted in love', right. Fundamentally we're in a movement rooted in love. If you go back to John Paul II and his Gospel of Life, If you read that book, which was very, very influential on younger me, and in informing a more holistic pro-life ethic it's rooted in the [] incalculable worth of the human person... So that's [] the root right there. Um how is that compatible with joining a movement that is shot through with hatred? So those two things are very deeply in conflict with each other..."
This is only one excerpt from many profound things said, I believe.
Oddly, ironically, confusingly? Trump's statements could be read as leaning towards a more pragmatic, or holistic approach or a more incrementalistic approach as implied or suggested at times, in the linked conversation.
A history that looks back to a mythologized past as the country’s perfect time is a key tool of authoritarians. It allows them to characterize anyone who opposes them as an enemy of the country’s great destiny. - Heather Cox Richardson