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[Josh]

So are you denying that anti-government hate exists?

Or are you saying that it is justified?

I'm saying that govenrment routinely engage in anti-citizen hate. If you think there is a problem with "anti-government hate", then a good place to start is for the government to stop doing things like oppressing the citizenry, and enforce laws fairly and focus on actual criminals, not trying to use informants to goad people into crimes they don't even want to commit.

You are repeating Timothy McVey's rationale almost word for word.

I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about, but you decided to make a nonsense response to Petr's post by waving a bloody shirt. This is exactly the same as what happened after 9/11, when we were told it was VERY important to go and invade Afghanistan and Iraq because of a "terrorist" attack. The real truth is that terrorist attacks like that are often used by the government as excuses to remove civil liberties and make us a less free country, and then lead to even more abused by an overzealous government (the same government that took a little old lady all the way to the Supreme Court to try to get away with stealing her $45,000 house for an unpaid $2,300 tax bill).

The fact that someone somewhere goes nuts and does a terrorist attack doesn't make the government somehow some innocent victim and somehow justify all the wrong things they've done. The government is supposed to be of the people, by the people, and for the people. It is not supposed to be a violent, occupying force. Its job is to protect the innocent, which it seems to be doing a very poor job of lately.