FBI / Social media collusion with career politicians

[Bootstrap]

It was initially reported here:
https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-sour ... -as-child/

The mainstream media reported that as misinformation/fake news.

So, was it or not?

The fact her diary was stolen is true, apparently Project Veritas paid $40,000 to the couple that stole it, that couple has now pleaded guilty. Project Veritas then decided not to publish it.

So these are unverifiable rumors promoted by people who wanted any possible dirt against Joe Biden and paid money to steal a diary from his daughter. No way to prove them true or false. So let's ask mediabiasfactcheck about the credibility of the source. I have rarely seen this scathing a rating:

Overall, we rate National File an extreme right Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims.

How do you think responsible media should handle that?

And how do you think responsible Christians should handle that?

Do we need a thread to discuss what was found in Mar-A-Lago? That seems to be what this thread is actually about, trying to proactively discredit the FBI out of fear of what they may have found on Trump. If we are going to discuss that, might be worthwhile to do it straight up.

[Josh]

It was initially reported here:
https://nationalfile.com/exclusive-sour ... -as-child/

The mainstream media reported that as misinformation/fake news.

So, was it or not?

The fact her diary was stolen is true, apparently Project Veritas paid $40,000 to the couple that stole it, that couple has now pleaded guilty. Project Veritas then decided not to publish it.

So these are unverifiable rumors promoted by people who wanted any possible dirt against Joe Biden and paid money to steal a diary from his daughter. No way to prove them true or false. So let's ask mediabiasfactcheck about the credibility of the source. I have rarely seen this scathing a rating:

Overall, we rate National File an extreme right Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims.

How do you think responsible media should handle that?

And how do you think responsible Christians should handle that?

Are you saying the diary pages they posted are fake?

And no, the diary wasn’t stolen. Ashley Biden was in rehab and renting a house and she abandoned the diary along with other property there for a year. It’s a bit ridiculous to claim Veritas paid someone to steal it.

[temporal1]

boot:
.. Do we need a thread to discuss what was found in Mar-A-Lago?

That seems to be what this thread is actually about, trying to proactively discredit the FBI out of fear of what they may have found on Trump. If we are going to discuss that, might be worthwhile to do it straight up.

1) i’m totally surprised this thread made it to 4 pages.

2) i’m surprised there has been no thread on Mar-a-Lago. Nothing stopping you!

3) i don’t appreciate the accusation this thread is “a cover” for a topic (that anyone might guess would be tempting bait to you)
but of little interest to me (and many others). the FBI is just doing what it’s done on other occasions. it will get worked out,
chances are, revealing more dubious actions on the part of the FBI and others .. whatever ..

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THIS TOPIC: THE INTERNET + SOCIAL MEDIA

from EARLY YEARS, when the internet, then social media platforms were (foisted) upon mankind, i “had a hunch” there would be YEARS of mankind trying to figure out what to do with it.

THIS THREAD IS PRETTY MUCH A PART OF THAT. here it is (social media) - now what??!

brakes became part of life AFTER the wheel, not before.
traffic lights arrived AFTER crossroad collisions, not before.



i prefer the OP topic continue in this thread, but i understand how this forum often goes.

[Grace]

Do we need a thread to discuss what was found in Mar-A-Lago? That seems to be what this thread is actually about, trying to proactively discredit the FBI out of fear of what they may have found on Trump. If we are going to discuss that, might be worthwhile to do it straight up.

NO….we do NOT need another “Trump” thread. That topic has been overdone and overused like an old shoe that stinks and needs to pitched into the trash. He no longer is president. Millions of Americans are suffering today under policies that have them making choices between buying high priced food for their kids, or gassing the car for work, or paying the high priced heating bill. None of that was happening a little over 18 months ago. Now to top it off some of these people who have voted for Trump and enjoyed his affordable economy, are being labeled as a
A danger to democracy, as violent, as fascists, etc.by the most powerful man in the country. We saw him spew his vile hatred for 74 million United States Trump voting citizens in a setting with a blood red satanic background and using the same body language of a evil dictator in Germany’s history. Millions of these people want affordable living expenses, are honest, hard working tax payers, who want safe streets, indoctrination kept out of their kids schools, yet they now have a label and are seen as a problem promoted by the most powerful man in the free world.

Sorry Temp, this is off topic.

[Josh]

Grace,

And we notice Biden can’t stop talking about Trump either.

He has a Democratic House, Senate, and controls the Presidency. Yet all he does is blame Trump and Trump supporters.

It’s somewhat analogous to the situation in Jackson MS. For months now the city leadership has been blaming Republicans, the Republican governor, and “racism” for the fact the water is shut off.

The Army Corps of Engineers shows up and within 1 day the water pressure is back. Upon further investigation, the water system in Jackson has not been maintained or tested in years. Half of the city hasn’t paid their water bills in years which is why it is underfunded. Yet the city leadership was demanding $1 billion.

Back to the current President. Trillions of dollars have been spent. Yet hard working ordinary Americans face higher prices every day for basic necessities like food, heat, and rent.

Our own electric bills are about double what they were a few years ago. Does this administration have any plan other than “It’s Trump’s fault”?

[temporal1]

There is no acceptable answer for what’s unfolding in this administration.
No one should make the mistake of blaming biden, harris, pelosi. Much worse is lined up immediately behind them.

Dear God, no more!

i feared what would result from Congress writing off policies in the TRILLIONS.
unfortunately, results are wasting no time. it’s the equivalent of telling incompetent+corrupt Congress they officially have no constraints at all. ever.

i know of no one capable of grasping what 1 trillion represents.

to me, it’s a statement that everything will get worse, for longer than can be imagined. forget about hope for your grandchildren.
not via gov policies! that’s over.

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“Six Months After the Freedom Convoy, Trudeau's Lies and Cowardice Are Clearer Than Ever” | Opinion
https://www.newsweek.com/six-months-aft ... on-1736474

.. But rather than meet with truckers, Trudeau demonized us as extremists, and then invoked the never before used Emergencies Act, meant to be used during times of war or terrorism, granting the government extraordinary powers they do not normally have. He then used the Emergencies Act to freeze the bank accounts of protest organizers and those who donated to the truckers and had Convoy organizer Tamara Lich arrested. .. ..

This one's just for you, temp!

[Grace]

Grace,

And we notice Biden can’t stop talking about Trump either.

He has a Democratic House, Senate, and controls the Presidency. Yet all he does is blame Trump and Trump supporters.

It’s somewhat analogous to the situation in Jackson MS. For months now the city leadership has been blaming Republicans, the Republican governor, and “racism” for the fact the water is shut off.

The Army Corps of Engineers shows up and within 1 day the water pressure is back. Upon further investigation, the water system in Jackson has not been maintained or tested in years. Half of the city hasn’t paid their water bills in years which is why it is underfunded. Yet the city leadership was demanding $1 billion.

Back to the current President. Trillions of dollars have been spent. Yet hard working ordinary Americans face higher prices every day for basic necessities like food, heat, and rent.

Our own electric bills are about double what they were a few years ago. Does this administration have any plan other than “It’s Trump’s fault”?

Trump and those who voted for him have to be made into the enemy because that is the only thing the Biden administration has to go on in the upcoming election. They can’t talk about the border with all the fentanyl, and human trafficking, with the abandonment of little children. They can’t tout low inflation, low crime, low cost of living, a good withdrawal of Afghanistan, etc.


Just the other day the press secretary made the claim that
The prior administration grossly mishandled Covid. Yet the handling of covid was mostly dictated by what the CDC and Dr Fauci recommended. Then in many cases the states made their own mandates, except for federal government agencies. Add to that Trump sped up the roll out of the vaccine and with the vaccine more people died under Biden than under Trump, without the vaccine.

The lies this administration purports are astounding.

[temporal1]

WHO ARE THE OMNIPOTENTS?

1) Evidently, most “major networks” did not air his ridiculousnss.
2) Evidently, he’s walked his words back.

i’m not bothering with links. it is what it is.

6 months ago, PM J Trudeau quickly walked his “Emergencies Act” decision back. (Then quickly extended his PM term, claiming it was in the best interests of Canada’s citizens, due to COVID.) Not mentioning citizen discontent with him!

Not sure how many times “major networks” and handlers have walked biden’s comments back, or disconnected his mic, etc.;
notably, his hawkish words to Putin.

For myself, when President Trump was “disconnected” from communication in the months following the Nov 2020 election
to January 6, i found this beyond bizarre. Even more bizarre when the same “omnipotents” imposed similar/the same on POTUS-elect biden!

WHO ARE THE OMNIPOTENTS CONTROLLING COMMUNICATION FROM U.S. PRESIDENTS!

In the past, “when presidents spoke,” news media vied to be first to air!! In full.
This began decades ago with RADIO. It was highly valued. Sometimes boring. No pulling the plug. Not from POTUS!

It seems “we” have problems. Evidently greater-than DJT or biden. Worse than 1 bad president.
Those behind the scenes (controlling the mics) have unilaterally decided they’re more important than any/all of them.

[temporal1]

PARLER / This video was from last year:

2021 / AwakenWithJP / Big Tech Cleans House! - Everything We Want You To Think / 11min


2021 NYT / PARLER / ”Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler, an App That Drew Trump Supporters”
The companies pulled support for the “free speech” social network, all but killing the service just as many conservatives are seeking alternatives to Facebook and Twitter.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/tech ... arler.html

Sept 2022 Reuters / PARLER / “ Social media app Parler returns to Google's Play Store”
https://www.reuters.com/technology/soci ... 022-09-02/

PARLER / google search
https://www.google.com/search?q=parler& ... UTF-8#ip=1

[Falco Underhill]

Federal Court Grants Missouri Attorney General’s Motion to Collect Discovery from Government Officials, Social Media Companies in Free Speech Lawsuit
Jul 12, 2022, 17:05 PM by AG Schmitt
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Today, the United States District Court, Western District of Louisiana granted Missouri and Louisiana’s motion for discovery in their lawsuit against top-ranking Biden Administration officials for allegedly colluding to suppress freedom of speech, paving the way for the attorneys general to collect discovery and documents from both top-ranking Biden Administration officials as well as social media giants like Twitter, Meta, and others. The lawsuit was filed on May 5.
“In May, Missouri and Louisiana filed a landmark lawsuit against top-ranking Biden Administration officials for allegedly colluding with social media giants to suppress freedom of speech on a number of topics including the origins of COVID-19, the efficacy of masks, and election integrity,” said Attorney General Schmitt. “Today, the Court granted our motion for discovery, paving the way for my Office to gather important documents to get to the bottom of that alleged collusion – this is a huge development.”

Missouri and Louisiana filed a Motion for Expedited Preliminary Injunction-Related Discovery on June 17, 2022. That motion was granted today by the United States District Court, Western District of Louisiana. The Court’s decision today clears the way for Missouri and Louisiana to gather discovery and documents from Biden Administration officials and social media companies.

The order states, “The First Amendment obviously applies to the citizens of Missouri and Louisiana, so Missouri and Louisiana have the authority to assert those rights.”

The lawsuit, which was filed on May 5, 2022, alleges that the Biden Administration – more specifically President Biden, Press Secretary Jen Psaki, Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the now-defunct Department of Homeland Security’s “Disinformation Governance Board” Nina Jankowicz, Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, and others – both pressured and colluded with social media giants Meta, Twitter, and Youtube to censor free speech in the name of combating so-called “disinformation” and “misinformation,” which led to the suppression and censorship of truthful information on several topics, including COVID-19.

The lawsuit names President Biden, former Press Secretary Jen Psaki, Health and Human Services Director Xavier Becerra, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Dr. Anthony Fauci, and others.

The lawsuit incorporates four counts: (1) Violation of the First Amendment, (2) Action in Excess of Statutory Authority, and (3) Administrative Procedure Act Violations by HHS officials, and (4) Administrative Procedure Act violations by DHS officials.

https://ago.mo.gov/home/news/2022/07/12 ... ch-lawsuit

Sep 6, 2022, 15:18 PM by AG Schmitt
JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. – Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt announced today that, in his lawsuit against top-ranking Biden Administration officials for allegedly colluding to suppress freedom of speech, the United States District Court for the Western District of Louisiana granted Missouri and Louisiana’s request to compel the federal government to produce records from top-ranking White House and Health and Human Services (HHS) officials. This ruling specifically allows the attorneys general to collect the communications between key White House and Department of Health and Senior Services officials, like Dr. Anthony Fauci and White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, and Twitter, Meta, and others.

“Up until this point, the Department of Justice has refused to cooperate with our requests for discovery from top officials in the Biden Administration under the guise of ‘executive privilege.’ Today, the Court entered an order that requires that the federal government turn over the records we’ve long requested,” said Attorney General Schmitt. “The American people deserve answers on how the federal government has colluded with social media companies to censor free speech on these major platforms. We will continue to fight to uncover more of this vast censorship enterprise.”

The original lawsuit was filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt and Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry on May 5, 2022. Missouri and Louisiana filed a Motion for Expedited Preliminary Injunction-Related Discovery on June 17, 2022, and that motion was granted on July 12, 2022, clearing the way for Missouri and Louisiana to gather discovery and documents from Biden Administration officials and social media companies.

The attorneys general filed a Joint Statement on Discovery Disputes, asking the federal District Court to compel the Department of Justice to turn over communications between high-ranking Biden Administration officials from the White House, HHS, and others and major social media companies. That request was granted today, specifically for the communications of Dr. Anthony Fauci and White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre with social-media platforms.

https://ago.mo.gov/home/news/2022/09/06 ... -s-lawsuit