temporal1 wrote:did you miss the first part of his reference?
I didn't. Shall I respond?
MaxPC wrote:JimFoxvog wrote:How about "I kind of like the custom I grew up with, where we kept our votes secret"? End of response.
It also helps to avoid announcing for whom one has chosen to vote on a bunch of internet forums in an effort to drum up more votes for a favored candidate.
Obviously.
Max, I think your post is a pretty good example of "warring without voting", lobbing accusations instead of examining the question as it applies to you and me. And I think this is also a false accusation - I'm only posting on two forums, this is one of them, and if you look, you simply won't find me announcing that I intend to vote for any particular candidate or urging people to do so. Yet you imply that I did. I did express a lot of concerns about Trump. I did respond to someone who asked me point-blank who I voted for here on MN, I hadn't found a graceful way to evade the question.
And that's pretty much the problem I'm talking about. From my perspective, there are a lot of Christians who are all in for a particular political world view, and if you discuss any topic that touches on that world view, it's hard to have a discussion about facts. But it's hard to simply not talk about so much of what is going on around us. I used to post on MennoNerds, and faced the same issue from the political left.
MaxPC wrote:Additionally those who put God first and choose to swim upstream by not voting at all instead of going with the flow of secular media pressures have found their true purpose: discipleship to Christ.
I see both voters and non-voters who are taking their discipleship to Christ seriously. And when we really focus on that, there's no need for political warring over the hot button political issues. In this thread, I do hope each of us can focus on the log in our own eye. The thread won't be useful unless it's a safe place for self-examination.
temporal wrote:i agree with JimFv, in former times, the secret ballot was of high importance!
frankly, the way votes are now tracked, people put in categories of voters, by race, sex, age, geographical location, etc., what is left of the secret ballot?!
people now look at each other and jump to conclusions about how they voted, without ever asking.
i would like to see all-that come to a halt.
it certainly erodes the significance, and tempts awful-awful divisions.
I agree.
I agree.
So it sounds like telling people would accept it if I responded as Jim suggests?
Is it biblical? Is it Christlike? Is it loving? Is it true? How can I find out?