Donald Trump Time Capsule

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Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby Bootstrap » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:52 pm

I'm not at all sure what to expect from a Donald Trump administration. I see that some people think they have a clearer idea than I do.

This thread is for your predictions - what do you think Donald Trump will do, and how will it affect the United States? What are your hopes, your fears, or things you want to keep an eye on to see what he does? No debate, please, and please do not quote what anyone else says. Just make your own predictions. No more than one post per person per day.

If Robert has good backups, we will revisit this in four years.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby lesterb » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:02 pm

My prediction is that there will be a few hiccups, but nothing nearly as much as the elite fear. As a business man who is somewhat out of touch with politics, I think Trump will be like Reagan was and depend heavily on his advisors. If they go astray, then he can always blame them and fire them.

Does anyone remember the fuss about Reagan being elected? The press was out in right field that time too. But he actually did pretty good. He at least had the guts to do some things that were needed. Trump may turn out to be the same.

Since I'm a Canadian, I'll bow out this thread now. But I'll continue reading. 8-)
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby appleman2006 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:28 pm

My prediction. He will be hounded and harassed to such an extent that he will be almost constantly on the defensive and over time some of his big moral failures may actually come to destroy him. ( See Rob Ford)
As I have said many times before. Your debt problems (and ours) are too great for any one administration to fix. The medicine needed to actually fix it would be far to sour and distasteful to the masses and they will rise up in revolt were he to try. And if he does not try? Then he will be just another president in a line of presidents that will bring you closer to the financial brink.
And no I am not a sour negative old man. I am actually very positive about the future. But it has nothing to do with the future of this old world. :pray :)
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby Gene » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:19 am

Reading some of the liberal hysteria, it does not seem to be thought beyond question that our financial ship may be righted using confiscated Canadian oil fields (and maybe orchards!), utilizing enslaved liberal pundits as a source of labor, as a source of national income. This obviously would not work since experience in manual labor does not seem to coincide in significant concentrations within the liberal commentariat, being more likely occupied by academia and government.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby JimFoxvog » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:58 am

I expect a measurable increase in the death rate due to many loosing health insurance.

I expect severe environmental damage that will be lamented through all of our lifetimes.

I expect an increase in rape, sexual harassment, and hate crimes toward minorities.

A severe economic downturn is quite possible.

I expect a growing prison population, both from those who have given up hope or are economically driven to crime, and from Christians and others of conscience who are morally called to resist. I'm trying to prepare myself for being in the later category.

I expect Trump to be one of the least popular Presidents in history, and him having a hard time getting the nomination for a second term.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby KingdomBuilder » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:29 am

I don't think things will change as radically as either side hopes/fears. We've got 3 branches of government; "the people" were just successful at rocking one of 3. These same people are the ones who elect the same congressional representatives over, and over, and over despite the fact that their approval rates drop over, and over, and over.
I think there will be more social ramifications than there will be anything else.
As for the comparison of Trump to Reagan (not going to single out LesterB.. I've heard this said by multiple people multiple times), I'll stay silent. I think the Guatemalan genocide speaks for itself.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby temporal1 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:46 am

Gene wrote:Reading some of the liberal hysteria, it does not seem to be thought beyond question that our financial ship may be righted using confiscated Canadian oil fields (and maybe orchards!),
utilizing enslaved liberal pundits as a source of labor, as a source of national income.

This obviously would not work since experience in manual labor does not seem to coincide in significant concentrations within the liberal commentariat, being more likely occupied by academia and government.
don't overlook:
entry level manual labor typically requires "no prior experience."
the military, and parenthood both depend on those with "no prior experience."
KingdomBuilder wrote:I don't think things will change as radically as either side hopes/fears.
We've got 3 branches of government; "the people" were just successful at rocking one of 3 ..
as a result of both 2014 and 2016, on surface, one might think "the people" rocked Congress ..
but, as with "all of it," this remains to be seen.
there have been sufficient numbers of elected who "serve" (in name only) .. so, for me, there is no way of predicting what may result. well, review of voting records of formerly elected MIGHT suggest future action. even this is unknown, as, eventually, for self-preservation, political aisles are likely to be crossed. we are about to find out.

i do respect the elected who understand their roles as public servants, to represent (voters, actually.)
so, what some may understand as "waffling," may, in fact, be attempts to represent (?)

ideologues are another matter, probably do not belong in elected-appointed office in a representative republic.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby mike » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:05 am

I don't expect a whole lot to change at all, except that the hysteria and fear will be coming from the left instead of the right for the next 4 or 8 years. I am amazed at how invested the "Christian left" are in politics and how shattered they were by this election. They seem to be the exact counterpart of the "Christian right" under Obama.

I think there is and will continue be a "Trump bump" in the economy but that we will soon be back to the typical cycles. Trump will probably be a big spender and will not likely help the national debt problem. I doubt we'll see a wall or big tariffs on imports or mass deportations. I think that as always the president will prioritize certain causes and industries while others will suffer. The Republicans will be over their honeymoon with Trump soon, and the Democrats will get over their defeat and get used to being the opposition party. It will be interesting to see them assume the obstructionist role. I think the Trump presidency may be good for the kingdom of God in some ways and bad in others.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby temporal1 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:51 pm

mike wrote:I don't expect a whole lot to change at all, except that the hysteria and fear will be coming from the left instead of the right for the next 4 or 8 years. I am amazed at how invested the "Christian left" are in politics and how shattered they were by this election. They seem to be the exact counterpart of the "Christian right" under Obama.

I think there is and will continue be a "Trump bump" in the economy but that we will soon be back to the typical cycles. Trump will probably be a big spender and will not likely help the national debt problem. I doubt we'll see a wall or big tariffs on imports or mass deportations. I think that as always the president will prioritize certain causes and industries while others will suffer. The Republicans will be over their honeymoon with Trump soon, and the Democrats will get over their defeat and get used to being the opposition party.

:arrow: It will be interesting to see them assume the obstructionist role.

I think the Trump presidency may be good for the kingdom of God in some ways and bad in others.
in Illinois, we have been living DNC-as-obstructionists, it is ugly, it is dire.
we've had an RNC governor since 2012. he is not conservative! no matter.
it's about organized party power, not the good of the people, evidence is, they will go to the death, rather than negotiate. people are hurting.

"local" "news" (of course, not owned/controlled locally!) is thoroughly complicit.
most days, one would never know illinois had a governor!
they feature the Speaker of the House, various lib representatives, their personal choice for "next governor!" .. anyone but our sitting governor. with some exceptions, esp if he can be put in a negative light. epic stonewalling.

in contrast, the prior DNC governor was "liberally" featured in local news.

from the tiny amount i'm seeing of news, it appears Trump may not be treated as badly as what we have had going on here in Illinois for 2 years. after all. part of, or a lot of, what has been happening here was an effort to keep the White House.
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Re: Donald Trump Time Capsule

Postby Bootstrap » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:56 pm

A reminder:

Bootstrap wrote:No debate, please, and please do not quote what anyone else says. Just make your own predictions. No more than one post per person per day.

If Robert has good backups, we will revisit this in four years.
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