Re: PA state senate: Oz vs. Fetterman
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:53 pm
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And with all of this, Abraham Lincoln went on to win the Civil War, save the American Republic, and now goes down in history as our greatest president.All of his friends thought him gloomy. Some of them thought him dangerously so. His “melancholy” was an accepted fact about him, the way his gifts for oratory and ribald humor were. A painter engaged to paint him recalled that
There were days when I could scarcely look into it without crying…his hands behind him, great black rings under his eyes—a sight so full of sorrow, care, and anxiety as would have “melted the hearts of the worst…adversaries.”
Senators do more than just vote. The proper thing would be for Shapiro to appoint a replacement.Ken wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:32 pmAnd with all of this, Abraham Lincoln went on to win the Civil War, save the American Republic, and now goes down in history as our greatest president.All of his friends thought him gloomy. Some of them thought him dangerously so. His “melancholy” was an accepted fact about him, the way his gifts for oratory and ribald humor were. A painter engaged to paint him recalled that
There were days when I could scarcely look into it without crying…his hands behind him, great black rings under his eyes—a sight so full of sorrow, care, and anxiety as would have “melted the hearts of the worst…adversaries.”
In the 19th Century, depression was called "melancholy" which I frankly think is a much more interesting and better word.
In any event, Fetterman is not my Senator, but as long as he isn't incapacitated I'm willing to cut him some slack. This PA Senate seat will be in Democratic hands until at least 2028. If Fetterman were to resign or fail to serve out the term for any reason, Democratic governor Shapiro would simply appoint another Democrat to take his place and serve out his term. Possibly someone like Tom Wolf, the popular former Democratic governor. Or someone like Connor Lamb who Fetterman defeated in the primary. Or Austin Davis, the young Lt. Governor who is apparently popular. I doubt any of them would vote much differently than Fetterman on any significant legislation in the upcoming terms.
He has no power to do so unless Fetterman resigns.Josh wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:10 amSenators do more than just vote. The proper thing would be for Shapiro to appoint a replacement.Ken wrote: ↑Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:32 pmAnd with all of this, Abraham Lincoln went on to win the Civil War, save the American Republic, and now goes down in history as our greatest president.All of his friends thought him gloomy. Some of them thought him dangerously so. His “melancholy” was an accepted fact about him, the way his gifts for oratory and ribald humor were. A painter engaged to paint him recalled that
In the 19th Century, depression was called "melancholy" which I frankly think is a much more interesting and better word.
In any event, Fetterman is not my Senator, but as long as he isn't incapacitated I'm willing to cut him some slack. This PA Senate seat will be in Democratic hands until at least 2028. If Fetterman were to resign or fail to serve out the term for any reason, Democratic governor Shapiro would simply appoint another Democrat to take his place and serve out his term. Possibly someone like Tom Wolf, the popular former Democratic governor. Or someone like Connor Lamb who Fetterman defeated in the primary. Or Austin Davis, the young Lt. Governor who is apparently popular. I doubt any of them would vote much differently than Fetterman on any significant legislation in the upcoming terms.
Yes. I'm just saying it wouldn't result in an upset of the political balance of power.
odd how, since this new wrinkle began in this thread, P.16, those who wouldn’t have supported Fetterman’s run to begin have responded to his present personal needs and healing; those in his, let’s say, “political camp,” have focused on potential threats of “their side’s” political loss - which, in this case, isn’t any description potential loss, at all.
temporal1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:48 am.. prayers for his full recovery, and his soul. prayers for his precious family.steve-in-kville wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:45 am That election was most certainly rigged.
https://lancasteronline.com/news/politi ... 81f80.html
prayers for those evidently without souls who believe anything is acceptable “for the win.”
He is suffering from depression which is actually a well documented side effect of strokes that usually goes away within a year: https://www.stroke.org/en/about-stroke/ ... and-stroke
That doesn't make any difference. He cannot discharge the duties of his office effectively.Ken wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:57 pmHe is suffering from depression which is actually a well documented side effect of strokes that usually goes away within a year: https://www.stroke.org/en/about-stroke/ ... and-stroke
A physical issue like being a wheelchair has zero bearing on being a governor or a Senator. The Senate is a deliberative body where Senators are expected to debate one another, give speeches, and generally be of sound mound. Someone who has a stroke and cannot speak properly and also has depressive episodes meaning he cannot function at all is not fit to be a Senator.Would we feel the same if it was some physical issue? Plenty of politicians have physical disabilities that pull them away from duties from time to time. Greg Abbott of Texas, for example. Should he be replaced because he is in a wheelchair and sometimes can't fulfill his duties for medical reasons?
Yes, mental health is a different issue than physical health. There are a lot of mental illnesses that make it impossible to do a variety of jobs. That's just reality. Fetterman should be either doing a job he can perform, or else availing himself of disability.Or is mental health a separate and more disqualifying issue than physical health? And, if so, what message does that give to the millions of Americans who are struggling with various mental health issues today?
Republicans have nothing to do with the present situation.If the Republicans hadn't picked an unqualified carpet-bagger from New Jersey as their candidate we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. The people of PA decided that they would rather be represented by an actual Pennsylvanian who was recovering from a stroke, over a New Jersey celebrity millionaire and Trump endorsee with no apparent ties to the state. They made that choice with all the information before them.