Poll: Who will win 2024 Presidency?

Events occurring and how they relate/affect Anabaptist faith and culture.

Who do you think is going to win?

1. Trump
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52%
2. Biden
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48%
 
Total votes: 25

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Grace wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 2:27 pm
Robert wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 11:49 am
Grace wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 7:28 am With Biden policies, we can predict higher prices from inflation.
Yes, I am really feeling that. I am drawing Social Security and working full time. My income is capped until I reach 66. This means I can not make more and inflation is really cutting deep into our income. In two months, I will be forced to pay for Medicare, which will take another $170 a month, after paying for Medicare for over 40 years in my pay deductions.

Yes, we are better off than most the world, but some of the world is catching up and passing me. It greatly limits how much I can help others since it is taking more than 100% to maintain right now. Summer is coming with massive electric bills too.

Most the US, 70% say it is on the wrong track, is feeling the Bidenomics also. Then they pass $100 billion more for wars and just print the money to cover it which is drive even more inflation.

It is easy to be at peace when you are not struggling to pay bills and taxes.
I am sorry you are struggling, Robert. Not only are they passing bills to fund wars, don’t forget the money taken from you and every other taxpayer by Biden, to pay off 1.2 billion in student loan debt.
i appreciate what Robert wrote, it represents what is happening all over this country, and much worse.
Somewhere, RZehr noted how much his family grocery bills are, possibly more than i’ve ever earned.

i’ve survived lots of economic downturns over decades. i don’t recall any of them hurting young people’s spirits as much as the present. the value of money has lost its meaning. the idea of having “enough” is fading. the current message is: no matter what you have or achieve, it’s not enough. that is seriously demoralizing to young people. every gov handout just makes everything worse.

suicide rates remain high. another indicator of unhealthy policies.

Jesus knows the life-death importance of Hope for human souls.
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I’m blown away with how much my grocery bill is too. It is nuts how much it has increased. A growing family of 9, coupled with steep inflation, adds up to astounding increases each year.
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RZehr wrote: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:37 pm I’m blown away with how much my grocery bill is too. It is nuts how much it has increased. A growing family of 9, coupled with steep inflation, adds up to astounding increases each year.
The majority of items for sale in my own grocery store are things we never buy, or only buy very rarely. It has always been that way, but inflation has made it much worse. We buy plenty of staples from our own store, but buying in bulk and shopping at the bent-and-dent grocery stores is how we've saved money while raising 12 children. Gardening and canning saves a bit as well.
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It continues to baffle me that Trump has as good a chance as he does of getting a second term. It is broadly reported today that he is ahead in the polls in the battleground states as he is in the middle of a criminal trial that could get him jail time.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/us/p ... -poll.html

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 669549007/

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/1 ... d-00157541

But then, a local former DA that was disgraced, investigated by our AG, and disbarred for corruption of various kinds was just voted in as the head of our county's republican party. I guess people just don't care.
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mike wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 4:29 pmI guess people just don't care.
Nihilism is a factor, I think. In the past I have been accused of not caring because I don't vote, now it feels like the shoe is on the other foot.
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mike wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 4:29 pmI guess people just don't care.
A lot of people don’t vote at all, for varying reasons. (Some abstain for faith convictions.)

Of those remaining, MY GUESS IS, voters have become sincerely convinced most high leaders are corrupt, whether in formal court or not. And, as ever, people do vote on the economy, THEIR economy, their COL. Not just what is “reported.”

Btw, respect for msm has never been lower? Reports of a glowing economy are falling on deaf ears.
No reports are promising a better tomorrow. They’re saying it’s great, get used to it.
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RZehr wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:52 am
barnhart wrote: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:05 am
Robert wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:24 pm Who will win the 2024 Presidency? Not the US citizen. We will continue to loose.
I'm also not enthused about the political system but neither am I despondent, nor do I feel I am being cheated or stolen from nor mistreated. A majority of the world's population would trade with me and take the deal on offer regardless of the next president or the next. I am quite blessed and grateful.

Maybe I have the freedom to feel this way because I hold earthly citizenship rather lightly.
Well said, exactly how I feel.

With regard to the two options, I choose to look at the positives of each one, instead of the negative.

For example, if I like the stability and predictability that Biden brings, then I choose to trust God on the matters I don’t like, such as furthering woke perversion, bureaucratic regulation choices, and his dementia.
With Trump, I may appreciate the policies that he promotes, judges, and being a peace monger, while trusting God on such matters as dictatorship, and rampant executive incompetence, and petty corruption.

I find it easier to honor and respect the President when I focus on the parts I appreciate, while leaving the other aspects up to God.
I never really understood what “white privilege,” was until I started realizing the incredibly different level of opportunity Mennonites raised people have had in North America.
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mike wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 4:29 pm It continues to baffle me that Trump has as good a chance as he does of getting a second term. It is broadly reported today that he is ahead in the polls in the battleground states as he is in the middle of a criminal trial that could get him jail time.
That's because many people (correctly) perceive these trials as being biased, unfair, and basically political show trials. Americans don't like that.

Democrats cheer on about "justice" and have been talking since 2016 about how he needs to be locked up.

Republicans and many independents observe this and just see the courts being used as political weapons. I have said it earlier - these show trials are the best campaign tool Trump could have hoped for.
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Josh wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 6:58 am That's because many people (correctly) perceive these trials as being biased, unfair, and basically political show trials. Americans don't like that.
Have you been paying any attention to the current trial?

Most any other person, after violating their conditions of release in other criminal trials, would be in pre-trial detention by now. The bias is greatly in this defendant's favor.
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JimFoxvog wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 7:23 am
Josh wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 6:58 am That's because many people (correctly) perceive these trials as being biased, unfair, and basically political show trials. Americans don't like that.
Have you been paying any attention to the current trial?

Most any other person, after violating their conditions of release in other criminal trials, would be in pre-trial detention by now. The bias is greatly in this defendant's favor.
I think it's unlawful for a judge to try to prevent a lawful Presidential candidate from conducting a campaign by trying to restrict that person's first amendment right to political speech.

As I said, these kind of legal games and political lawfare are not impressing either Republicans or independent voters. (Independent voters are people who will vote either Republican or Democratic and are currently "undecided" on which candidate to vote for.) Hence it is the best thing that could happen to Trump's campaign.

Americans don't like the idea of muzzling someone and not letting them speak. If Trump is really so unreasonable, let him speak. Wouldn't the people then decide not to vote for him?
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