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The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:19 pm
by Sudsy
From the 'frequency of communion' thread gcdonner posted -
I find that most Christians have a lack of understanding of the purpose of communion, and also it's importance. Too often it is made into a "test" of fellowship, which, imo, totally misses the point. I would enjoy entering a discussion on the purpose of communion again. It is one of the most important things we can share and experience as believers together, along with footwashing, which is missing in most of Christianity.
This topic has grabbed my attention recently and I would love to learn from others how they view and experience taking communion (the "Lord's Supper" as some put it). It has always concerned me regarding the consequence spelled out in that text regarding participating 'unworthily'. Have we missed paying attention to a possible reason for sickness and immature death in our congregations ? What else regarding this have we missed ?

Also, some of us here regard this practise as a 'closed' practise while others, like my own MB church, regard it as a more 'open' practise for all born again believers. Perhaps the arguments for each can also be presented. We can leave the footwashing for another thread, if you don't mind.

Maybe a poor place to begin but I will start by saying that the part of 'examining ourselves' seems to me to be regarding the behaviour of those in the Corinthian church as can be read in preceding verses but it also seems to go beyond that.

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:28 pm
by Hats Off
This do in remembrance of me.

As oft as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you show the Lord's death till he come.

1 Cor 11: 17-34 is always read at our communion services just prior to breaking the bread. It explains to me why we keep communion and the purpose of examination of one's self prior to taking part. To me it also helps explain why we have closed communion.

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:41 pm
by Sudsy
Looking forward to gcdonner's explanation on how the point is missed on the purpose of communion.

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:23 am
by MaxPC
Hats Off wrote:This do in remembrance of me.

As oft as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you show the Lord's death till he come.

1 Cor 11: 17-34 is always read at our communion services just prior to breaking the bread. It explains to me why we keep communion and the purpose of examination of one's self prior to taking part. To me it also helps explain why we have closed communion.
This is essentially the rationale in Catholic world. It reminds us weekly of the price with which we were bought and how we are to strive to remain worthy in our discipleship. Those who go to Mass on a daily basis do so with that intent as well. We are only required to attend Mass weekly but can do so daily if we prefer.

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:49 pm
by gcdonner
1Co 11:27  Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 
28  But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. 
29  For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. 
30  For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep. 
31  For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged. 
32  But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
 
Before I express my thoughts on this passage, I will ask a question:
Who amongst us can make ourself "worthy" of the body and blood of Christ?

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:29 am
by Hats Off
Are we questioning the Word?

Can we make ourselves unworthy?

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:48 am
by CADude
gcdonner wrote: Who amongst us can make ourself "worthy" of the body and blood of Christ?
Only Jesus can provide the necessary covering for sin. Or what's your point?

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 9:57 am
by cmbl
Paul evidently thought one could eat the bread and drink the cup unworthily. It seems to me that a simple reading of the text suggests that the purpose of examining oneself is to ensure one is worthily eating the bread and drinking the cup.

I think there is a difference between what Paul means by worthily eating the bread and what is meant by the leading question "who among us can make ourself worthy," which seems to be asked in order to prompt the answer of "no one."

When I consider the full witness of the NT, I am left with the fact that it says that all have sinned, and that some are unworthy of Jesus, and that some are worthy to walk with Him.

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:05 am
by Hats Off
Very good response!

Re: The Purpose of Communion

Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:21 am
by gcdonner
Hats Off wrote:Are we questioning the Word?

Can we make ourselves unworthy?
You are misunderstanding the Word, which is my point exactly. We are all unworthy, our righteousnesses are as filthy rags according to the Word. If you can make yourself worthy, in the sense that you are inferring then we don't need the sacrifice of Jesus life or his resurrection. He died just because we are unworthy.