Judas Maccabeus wrote:Josh wrote:Maybe this is a good question to ask:
What do you trust government to do?
One could only be comfortable with the government teaching Religion if one would be comfortable with Mormonism being taught in public schools in Utah or Roman Catholicism being taught in Massachusetts.
J.M.
if you return to the OP, i think you might see, maybe not, that the KY proposal has nothing to do with gov teaching religion. at least, not as i understand it, and, this has not been legal in the U.S. for years.
this proposal is about an elective course to present the Bible as a book.
example: there are any number of PBS-type documentaries on the Bible, i have watched and enjoyed a number over many years. these documentaries walk thru all sorts of scriptural history, often putting these events in perspective of general world history. there is no prayer or worship. they sometimes describe prayer and worship.
there is so much to be known! this is not about evangelizing, but, if the Holy Spirit moved a person, all this information could certainly enhance that experience, and help it come to life.
the way things are, the mountain of Christian history is ignored in public schools, which, in my view, is .. ridiculous. to repeat, in my view, like ignoring "the elephant in the living room."
do some Christians want to use public schools to evangelize! no doubt.
"some people" can be found to make some kind of case for anything in this world.
from the little i know about this proposal, i think it's a good idea.
no matter what children experience, over time in their lives, they will accept or reject, they will pursue or abandon. the Holy Spirit will choose who will be touched with Light.
gov cannot control Light, no more than parents can.
offering the Bible could help young people realize there IS history!
U.S. schools offer very little ancient history, world history. a course like this could open some eyes, give some perspective. without being Sunday school or church.
i see quite a lot of this kind of thing, and, i get a lot out of it. it definitely adds depth to my faith.
the ultimate is to enhance faith. but no need for schools to go there. not necessary. and, not legal.
possibly most on this forum do not view these types of videos.
that's ok. i'm not suggesting anyone "do as i do."
my thoughts here are for public school children - who deserve a whole lot better than what they're getting.
a recent example of a video series i enjoy:
Ancient Roads
https://www.aptonline.org/catalog.nsf/v ... ONSTANTINE
Judas Maccabeus wrote:Joy wrote:temporal1 wrote:Joy, i just read this today.
Not a typical public school graduation speech.
There's a timely message in there, one, i think, that must have special meaning for Christians:
i forwarded it on to my family.
i hope they read before they delete.
A startling message for young people, but one we would do well to remember.
Reminds me of the young lady working with geriatric products, that went undercover as old ladies (bag lady, wealthy lady, middle class, etc.) to discover the needs and trials of elderly people. She was spit on, cheated, attacked, and yet some people were very kind to her.
If we could walk in other people's shoes for a time....
Remember, he is talking to the children of Privilege here. This private school charges more than either of my children's college tuition for a year and it is a junior high!
J.M.
context is interesting, but, i believe his point to be universal.
on this forum, in the past, the thought has been shared that most living in the U.S. live in privilege, compared to many other cultures in the world. i live modestly, some would view it as poor, maybe gov does? .. i do not. things are tight, alright, still, i believe i live in privilege.
another thought is about how Christians do best under duress. or, on our knees.
we don't do very well in times of plenty, apathy and ambivalence tend to set in. not good.
Justice Roberts was not speaking directly from a Christian perspective, but, as i read, as a Christian, i "felt" a definite impact from his chosen words.
that's one of my "bugaboos" about how government is behaving presently.
i see a lot of "lifting" of scriptural principles going on, with the attempt to squeeze Jesus right out of the "formula." (i wince.)
i'm not certain that's what Justice Roberts was attempting to do here, but, maybe.
i do not know a lot about his politics or rulings.