Israel is Babylon the Great

[Soloist]

Wife: as far as pornography, the gaming industry, and Hollywood goes, there are many Jewish sects that don’t even allow that, and people like Adam Sandler are not representative of them. i’m sure you can also find at least as many non-Jews that were involved in the creation of a lot of these industries, and it really just depends on how you skew the data. There are many Jewish (non-Christian) groups that require locked down cell phones and Internet accountability a lot like many Anabaptist groups. I’m sure you can get some more accurate descriptions of the many varieties of Jews from someone like RZehr or Steven Donolly, who are not Jewish or Zionists, but have a lot more experience with Jewish communities.

As far as it goes with who has been responsible for making martyrs and persecuting the church, yes, Jews have in the past played their part, but during the majority of the last two millennia, some bigger offenders would have included the Catholic church as well as the protestant churches, both of those having also been known for being very antisemitic. The Spanish Inquisition, for example, was definitely not ran by the Jews, and they suffered as well as anyone else who didn’t agree with the Catholic Church. Martin Luther was a strong supporter of Anabaptist persecution, as well as other protestant and Catholic groups.

An interesting quote I’ve heard recently is that God did not give us Revelation to make sure we had our armories and pantries stocked for the end times, but so that we would be more motivated to share the gospel Jesus gave us with those around us.

[RZehr]

This is disgraceful.
Why do conspiracy theorists always land on "the Jews"?

If Jews controlled the world, you'd think things would be going better for Jews historically, or currently.

It's fine to oppose Zionism politically, if you can do so without dipping into conspiracy theories about how the "Jews rule the world." But anti-Zionist conspiracy theories are inevitably antisemitic.

[Lex]

I have provided clear evidence that the people of Israel are Babylon and that the people of Israel control the world. But I'm honestly not surprised that you don't believe me. I didn't believe at first either. I also thought it was just a stupid conspiracy theory. It took me years to realize it myself. I'm convinced that anyone who really makes an effort and does some research will recognize the truth. Martin Luther, for example, only realized who Israel really is at the end of his life.

Johannes Pfefferkorn was a Jewish theologian and he said: "The J..s are responsible for all the evil in the world" I repeat, he was a Jew. He lived among the Jews, he was in their secret meetings, if he says something like that, then you should at least think about it. He was also in favor of burning the Talmud. The Talmud is the central text of Judaism, even above the Tanakh, because the Talmud is the interpretation of the Tanakh in Judaism. I have already read something in the Talmud and I can assure you that this book is not beautiful. Even Paul calls the J..s the "enemies of mankind" in 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16.

If you want, you can also read the book by Henry Ford: "The International Jew". Also an interesting book.

[Soloist]

I have provided clear evidence that the people of Israel are Babylon and that the people of Israel control the world. But I'm honestly not surprised that you don't believe me. I didn't believe at first either. I also thought it was just a stupid conspiracy theory. It took me years to realize it myself. I'm convinced that anyone who really makes an effort and does some research will recognize the truth. Martin Luther, for example, only realized who Israel really is at the end of his life.

Johannes Pfefferkorn was a Jewish theologian and he said: "The J..s are responsible for all the evil in the world" I repeat, he was a Jew. He lived among the Jews, he was in their secret meetings, if he says something like that, then you should at least think about it. He was also in favor of burning the Talmud. The Talmud is the central text of Judaism, even above the Tanakh, because the Talmud is the interpretation of the Tanakh in Judaism. I have already read something in the Talmud and I can assure you that this book is not beautiful. Even Paul calls the J..s the "enemies of mankind" in 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16.

If you want, you can also read the book by Henry Ford: "The International Jew". Also an interesting book.

Tell me… do you believe Hitler ordered the killing of a very large amount of Jews?

[Lex]

I have provided clear evidence that the people of Israel are Babylon and that the people of Israel control the world. But I'm honestly not surprised that you don't believe me. I didn't believe at first either. I also thought it was just a stupid conspiracy theory. It took me years to realize it myself. I'm convinced that anyone who really makes an effort and does some research will recognize the truth. Martin Luther, for example, only realized who Israel really is at the end of his life.

Johannes Pfefferkorn was a Jewish theologian and he said: "The J..s are responsible for all the evil in the world" I repeat, he was a Jew. He lived among the Jews, he was in their secret meetings, if he says something like that, then you should at least think about it. He was also in favor of burning the Talmud. The Talmud is the central text of Judaism, even above the Tanakh, because the Talmud is the interpretation of the Tanakh in Judaism. I have already read something in the Talmud and I can assure you that this book is not beautiful. Even Paul calls the J..s the "enemies of mankind" in 1 Thessalonians 2:14-16.

If you want, you can also read the book by Henry Ford: "The International Jew". Also an interesting book.

Tell me… do you believe Hitler ordered the killing of a very large amount of Jews?

Theodor Herzl argued that anti-Semitism would help Zionism. He was a Zionist himself and he really said that anti-Semitism would help Zionism.

The Zionists have a motto: "The end justifies the means." This means that if sacrifices have to be made to achieve the end, then these sacrifices have to be made. Think about it.

[Soloist]

Theodor Herzl argued that anti-Semitism would help Zionism. He was a Zionist himself and he really said that anti-Semitism would help Zionism.

The Zionists have a motto: "The end justifies the means." This means that if sacrifices have to be made to achieve the end, then these sacrifices have to be made. Think about it.

So, to summarize your opinion,

The Jews asked for it. Is that what you are saying? That some maniacal Jew decided to manipulate things to result in the mass killing of their people?

[RZehr]

Theodor Herzl argued that anti-Semitism would help Zionism. He was a Zionist himself and he really said that anti-Semitism would help Zionism.

The Zionists have a motto: "The end justifies the means." This means that if sacrifices have to be made to achieve the end, then these sacrifices have to be made. Think about it.

Maybe you missed the question? The question wasn’t about Theodor Herzl notions.

[Bootstrap]

Quote from an article written by Theodor Herzl (who was a Jew) in a German newspaper: "The wealthy Jews rule the world. In their hands lies the fate of governments and nations. They start wars between countries and, when they wish, governments make peace. When the wealthy Jews sing, the nations and their leaders dance along and meanwhile the Jews get richer."

Can you please point me to the original source for this quote?

This seems out of keeping with other things Hertzl wrote. For instance:

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/qu ... odor-herzl

I believe that I understand Anti-Semitism, which is really a highly complex movement. I consider it from a Jewish standpoint, yet without fear or hatred. I believe that I can see what elements there are in it of vulgar sport, of common trade jealousy, of inherited prejudice, of religious intolerance, and also of pretended self-defense. I think the Jewish question is no more a social than a religious one, notwithstanding that it sometimes takes these and other forms. It is a national question, which can only be solved by making it a political world-question to be discussed and settled by the civilized nations of the world in council.

We are a people--one people.

We have honestly endeavored everywhere to merge ourselves in the social life of surrounding communities and to preserve the faith of our fathers. We are not permitted to do so. In vain are we loyal patriots, our loyalty in some places running to extremes; in vain do we make the same sacrifices of life and property as our fellow-citizens; in vain do we strive to increase the fame of our native land in science and art, or her wealth by trade and commerce. In countries where we have lived for centuries we are still cried down as strangers. and often by those whose ancestors were not yet domiciled in the land where Jews had already had experience of suffering. The majority may decide which are the strangers; for this, as indeed every point which arises in the relations between nations, is a question of might. I do not here surrender any portion of our prescriptive right, when I make this statement merely in my own name as an individual. In the world as it now is and for an indefinite period wilt probably remain, might precedes right. It is useless, therefore, for us to be loyal patriots, as were the Huguenots who were forced to emigrate. If we could only be left in peace. . . .

But I think we shall not be left in peace.

Oppression and persecution cannot exterminate us. No nation on earth has survived such struggles and sufferings as we have gone through. Jew-baiting has merely stripped off our weaklings; the strong among us were invariably true to their race when persecution broke out against them. This attitude was most clearly apparent in the period immediately following the emancipation of the Jews. Those Jews who were advanced intellectually and materially entirely lost the feeling of belonging to their race. Wherever our political well-being has lasted for any length of time, we have assimilated with our surroundings. I think this is not discreditable. Hence, the statesman who would wish to see a Jewish strain in his nation would have to provide for the duration of our political well-being; and even a Bismarck could not do that.

That seems so directly opposite from the quote that you provided that I doubt your quote is genuine. Can you point me to the original article you say it came from?

[Lex]

Theodor Herzl argued that anti-Semitism would help Zionism. He was a Zionist himself and he really said that anti-Semitism would help Zionism.

The Zionists have a motto: "The end justifies the means." This means that if sacrifices have to be made to achieve the end, then these sacrifices have to be made. Think about it.

So, to summarize your opinion,

The Jews asked for it. Is that what you are saying? That some maniacal Jew decided to manipulate things to result in the mass killing of their people?

Let's take a look at the Hamas attack. Why did Hamas do this? Why did Hamas single-handedly attack a powerful army like Israel? Did Hamas really think they could defeat Israel? That is very strange.

Or maybe certain people told the leaders of Hamas to attack Israel to justify the displacement and killing of people in Gaza?

Josep Borell said: "The Israeli government itself has been boycotting a two-state solution for 30 years. In order to prevent it, they themselves created Hamas. Hamas was funded by the Israeli government to weaken Fatah's Palestinian Authority." Josep Borrell is a Spanish politician serving as High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy since 1 December 2019.

[Bootstrap]

The Zionists have a motto: "The end justifies the means."

Do they really?

I thought that was a paraphrase of Niccolò Machiavelli, not exactly a Zionist. Do you believe this is particularly associated with Zionism? Explain why you believe this.