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Baptism in the Catholic Church
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I have never split. That’s the other guy.
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Hasn't been one in my group in my lifetime, or my grandparents' lifetime, or their grandparents' lifetime, for that matter.
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"What is in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
-Romeo & Juliet: II, II
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Mt 24:35
Proverbs 18:2 A fool does not delight in understanding but only in revealing his own mind.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is folly with God
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He is standing with the decision.
https://apnews.com/article/vatican-pope ... bd49e8b9c9“The Lord blesses everyone.”
AP is giving balanced reporting, I think, repeating
Vatican’s Dec. 18 declaration restated traditional church teaching that marriage is a lifelong union between a man and woman.
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I'm aware he is, but the idea of giving a "blessing" to people living in obvious sin is an obviously anti-Christian position. You don't give a "blessing" to someone's career who is a hitman. Or a "blessing" to a heterosexual couple cohabiting and living in sin. Or a "blessing" to someone who chronically lies and cheats to get ahead in business.
We also know from experience that such "blessing ceremonies" are the camel's nose in the tent that, in every other denomination that has started to do this, eventually becomes full-blown acceptance and promotion of homosexual "marriage".
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Actually it seems that you do. Although he doesn't look happy about it.Josh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:11 pmI'm aware he is, but the idea of giving a "blessing" to people living in obvious sin is an obviously anti-Christian position. You don't give a "blessing" to someone's career who is a hitman. Or a "blessing" to a heterosexual couple cohabiting and living in sin. Or a "blessing" to someone who chronically lies and cheats to get ahead in business.
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I don’t think either of us believe the pope is a true Christian.
Either way, he doesn’t look happy. Maybe he just has a resting grouch face?
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Blessings for world leaders seem suspect to me although as believers we are to pray for peace and for kings and all in authority.Ken wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:50 pmActually it seems that you do. Although he doesn't look happy about it.Josh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 8:11 pmI'm aware he is, but the idea of giving a "blessing" to people living in obvious sin is an obviously anti-Christian position. You don't give a "blessing" to someone's career who is a hitman. Or a "blessing" to a heterosexual couple cohabiting and living in sin. Or a "blessing" to someone who chronically lies and cheats to get ahead in business.
I don’t think there is a special blessing ritual for world leaders.*
*Well, I’m wrong. There are lots of special blessings for kings and other leaders and apparently there has been for 1,699 years.
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When I was working in Guatemala in the 1980s the ultra-conservative Cardinal Casariego who was Archbishop of Guatemala would famously consecrate armored personnel carriers and tanks with holy water that were in route to the western highlands areas where they were engaging in what was essentially genocide against indigenous Mayan populations. It was a few years before my time but people still talked about it and also how he would travel around the country with an army escort.Josh wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:44 pmBlessings for world leaders seem suspect to me although as believers we are to pray for peace and for kings and all in authority.
I don’t think there is a special blessing ritual for world leaders.*
*Well, I’m wrong. There are lots of special blessings for kings and other leaders and apparently there has been for 1,699 years.
I was just laughing at your notion that shady businessmen would ever be denied blessing or rites such as marriage in the Catholic Church or any other church, Mennonite included.
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