The bloodthirsty nature of the evangelical political right wing

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If Evangelicals are known for this; be careful that Anabaptists don't become known for hatred of other Christians-
Sometimes it can come across that way in various threads.
Not sure that pleases the Lord either
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Valerie wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:17 pm If Evangelicals are known for this; be careful that Anabaptists don't become known for hatred of other Christians-
Sometimes it can come across that way in various threads.
Not sure that pleases the Lord either
Many of the evangelicals I am concerned about are Anabaptists. Recently I became aware of a conservative Mennonite who led in prayer that the IDF would be victorious in battle against Hamas. Another conservative Mennonite feels it is really important to vote against Ohio’s Issue 1 (which passed by the way) and urged prayer about the outcome of the election.

Yet another conservative Mennonite is very concerned about Muslims invading America and is hoping his neighbours are heavily armed in case of such an invasion.

Meanwhile the reality is America is sending $15 billion worth of weapons to Israel, which are then used to bomb mosques, schools, Orthodox churches, Catholic Churches, hospitals, and ambulances.
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Josh wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 7:27 am
Valerie wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:17 pm If Evangelicals are known for this; be careful that Anabaptists don't become known for hatred of other Christians-
Sometimes it can come across that way in various threads.
Not sure that pleases the Lord either
Many of the evangelicals I am concerned about are Anabaptists. Recently I became aware of a conservative Mennonite who led in prayer that the IDF would be victorious in battle against Hamas. Another conservative Mennonite feels it is really important to vote against Ohio’s Issue 1 (which passed by the way) and urged prayer about the outcome of the election.

Yet another conservative Mennonite is very concerned about Muslims invading America and is hoping his neighbours are heavily armed in case of such an invasion.

Meanwhile the reality is America is sending $15 billion worth of weapons to Israel, which are then used to bomb mosques, schools, Orthodox churches, Catholic Churches, hospitals, and ambulances.
It is a terrible shame Israel has to try to keep from threats of annihilation coming to pass. They are believers in OT war. They still see themselves as God's elect. We all have to sort through true reporting and blame. Israel was wrongly blamed for the hospital bombing. Perhaps the vest thing to do is pray.

Woe to OH for voting for Issue 1 and Issue 2.
The ones who turned out to vote for abortion and for legal Marijuana are apparently more compassionate about evil than those who didn't help prevent it by voting against these.
Some just didn't bother because they felt it was futile.

Sad day in OH as all eyes wete watching
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Valerie wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:51 am
It is a terrible shame Israel has to try to keep from threats of annihilation coming to pass. They are believers in OT war. They still see themselves as God's elect. We all have to sort through true reporting and blame. Israel was wrongly blamed for the hospital bombing. Perhaps the vest thing to do is pray.
It is a terrible shame that Israel's God isn't powerful enough to protect them like he protected Israel in OT war.
2 Chronicles 20 wrote: It came to pass after this also, that the children of Moab, and the children of Ammon, and with them other beside the Ammonites, came against Jehoshaphat to battle. Then there came some that told Jehoshaphat, saying, There cometh a great multitude against thee from beyond the sea on this side Syria; and, behold, they be in Hazazontamar, which is Engedi. And Jehoshaphat feared, and set himself to seek the Lord, and proclaimed a fast throughout all Judah. And Judah gathered themselves together, to ask help of the Lord: even out of all the cities of Judah they came to seek the Lord. And Jehoshaphat stood in the congregation of Judah and Jerusalem, in the house of the Lord, before the new court, And said, O Lord God of our fathers, art not thou God in heaven? and rulest not thou over all the kingdoms of the heathen? and in thine hand is there not power and might, so that none is able to withstand thee? Art not thou our God, who didst drive out the inhabitants of this land before thy people Israel, and gavest it to the seed of Abraham thy friend for ever? And they dwelt therein, and have built thee a sanctuary therein for thy name, saying, If, when evil cometh upon us, as the sword, judgment, or pestilence, or famine, we stand before this house, and in thy presence, (for thy name is in this house,) and cry unto thee in our affliction, then thou wilt hear and help. And now, behold, the children of Ammon and Moab and mount Seir, whom thou wouldest not let Israel invade, when they came out of the land of Egypt, but they turned from them, and destroyed them not; Behold, I say, how they reward us, to come to cast us out of thy possession, which thou hast given us to inherit. O our God, wilt thou not judge them? for we have no might against this great company that cometh against us; neither know we what to do: but our eyes are upon thee. And all Judah stood before the Lord, with their little ones, their wives, and their children. Then upon Jahaziel the son of Zechariah, the son of Benaiah, the son of Jeiel, the son of Mattaniah, a Levite of the sons of Asaph, came the Spirit of the Lord in the midst of the congregation; And he said, Hearken ye, all Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem, and thou king Jehoshaphat, Thus saith the Lord unto you, Be not afraid nor dismayed by reason of this great multitude; for the battle is not yours, but God's. To morrow go ye down against them: behold, they come up by the cliff of Ziz; and ye shall find them at the end of the brook, before the wilderness of Jeruel. Ye shall not need to fight in this battle: set yourselves, stand ye still, and see the salvation of the Lord with you, O Judah and Jerusalem: fear not, nor be dismayed; to morrow go out against them: for the Lord will be with you. And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the Lord, worshipping the Lord. And the Levites, of the children of the Kohathites, and of the children of the Korhites, stood up to praise the Lord God of Israel with a loud voice on high. And they rose early in the morning, and went forth into the wilderness of Tekoa: and as they went forth, Jehoshaphat stood and said, Hear me, O Judah, and ye inhabitants of Jerusalem; Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. And when he had consulted with the people, he appointed singers unto the Lord, and that should praise the beauty of holiness, as they went out before the army, and to say, Praise the Lord; for his mercy endureth for ever. And when they began to sing and to praise, the Lord set ambushments against the children of Ammon, Moab, and mount Seir, which were come against Judah; and they were smitten. For the children of Ammon and Moab stood up against the inhabitants of mount Seir, utterly to slay and destroy them: and when they had made an end of the inhabitants of Seir, every one helped to destroy another. And when Judah came toward the watch tower in the wilderness, they looked unto the multitude, and, behold, they were dead bodies fallen to the earth, and none escaped. And when Jehoshaphat and his people came to take away the spoil of them, they found among them in abundance both riches with the dead bodies, and precious jewels, which they stripped off for themselves, more than they could carry away: and they were three days in gathering of the spoil, it was so much. And on the fourth day they assembled themselves in the valley of Berachah; for there they blessed the Lord: therefore the name of the same place was called, The valley of Berachah, unto this day. Then they returned, every man of Judah and Jerusalem, and Jehoshaphat in the forefront of them, to go again to Jerusalem with joy; for the Lord had made them to rejoice over their enemies.And they came to Jerusalem with psalteries and harps and trumpets unto the house of the Lord.
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Valerie wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:51 am Woe to OH for voting for Issue 1 and Issue 2.
The ones who turned out to vote for abortion and for legal Marijuana are apparently more compassionate about evil than those who didn't help prevent it by voting against these.
Some just didn't bother because they felt it was futile.

Sad day in OH as all eyes wete watching
Valerie,

Are you aware abortion is legal in Israel?
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Josh wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:59 am
Valerie wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:51 am Woe to OH for voting for Issue 1 and Issue 2.
The ones who turned out to vote for abortion and for legal Marijuana are apparently more compassionate about evil than those who didn't help prevent it by voting against these.
Some just didn't bother because they felt it was futile.

Sad day in OH as all eyes wete watching
Valerie,

Are you aware abortion is legal in Israel?
Not just legal but government subsidized so it is free.
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The West Bank government (not to mention Hamas) is much more conservative and “family values” than Israel. Interesting how the American right wing consistently sides against them.
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Josh wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:07 pm The West Bank government (not to mention Hamas) is much more conservative and “family values” than Israel. Interesting how the American right wing consistently sides against them.
It would behoove you to listen to the many people that actually lived there.
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Josh wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:59 am
Valerie wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:51 am Woe to OH for voting for Issue 1 and Issue 2.
The ones who turned out to vote for abortion and for legal Marijuana are apparently more compassionate about evil than those who didn't help prevent it by voting against these.
Some just didn't bother because they felt it was futile.

Sad day in OH as all eyes wete watching
Valerie,

Are you aware abortion is legal in Israel?
Your point?
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I texted a friend this morning who "Stands for Israel" on Facebook, and called for praying Isa. 54:17 for Israel:

"Jehoshaphat was reproved for making an alliance with Israel, and God destroyed his ships.
Israel certainly doesn't fit into the category of servants of the Lord [Isa. 54:17].
Revelation calls Jerusalem Sodom and Egypt.
They are against Christ. I'm not standing with them."

She replied, "Of the two, who would you stand for?

"Neither."
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