He said it would be preferable to be drowned to death than to face his eventual righteous judgment.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:39 pmI can't imagine that Jesus would have supported such things.Josh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:18 amI would support more humane methods of dealing with such people, such as a firing squad, lethal injection, or pushing them off a building.Outsider wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:10 am
It seems to me that politics- both sides of the aisle- seem to encourage mercilessness.
If you question the righteousness of “putting pedos through a wood chipper” you’re accused of advocating for the crime, or being one. And I don’t want anyone put through a wood chipper. But, equally, I can understand someone murdering a person who had harmed their child. As I’ve said before, I believe you should “neutralize the threat”, but use no more force than necessary to render the perpetuator harmless. I think anything more creates a merciless and unjust society..
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How is that relevant? Would pushing a person off a building somehow save them from God's righteous judgement?Josh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:00 pmHe said it would be preferable to be drowned to death than to face his eventual righteous judgment.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:39 pmI can't imagine that Jesus would have supported such things.
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Luke 17:2:ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:39 pmI can't imagine that Jesus would have supported such things.Josh wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:18 amI would support more humane methods of dealing with such people, such as a firing squad, lethal injection, or pushing them off a building.Outsider wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:10 am
It seems to me that politics- both sides of the aisle- seem to encourage mercilessness.
If you question the righteousness of “putting pedos through a wood chipper” you’re accused of advocating for the crime, or being one. And I don’t want anyone put through a wood chipper. But, equally, I can understand someone murdering a person who had harmed their child. As I’ve said before, I believe you should “neutralize the threat”, but use no more force than necessary to render the perpetuator harmless. I think anything more creates a merciless and unjust society..
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So what do you think that means in this context?Valerie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:14 pmLuke 17:2:ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:39 pmI can't imagine that Jesus would have supported such things.
17 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
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His punishment will be worse than that it seems. I was just thinking what Josh said doesn't seem too far from the thought of what Jesus was conveyingKen wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:22 pmSo what do you think that means in this context?Valerie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:14 pmLuke 17:2:ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:39 pm
I can't imagine that Jesus would have supported such things.
17 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
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Agreed. Jesus did not always employ happy clappy parables; he spoke clearly regarding rough reality.Valerie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:14 pmLuke 17:2:ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:39 pmI can't imagine that Jesus would have supported such things.
17 Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.
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I notice Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery.
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You have to try and understand each and every parable and situation he was teaching about.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:07 pm I notice Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery.
Do you forget who comes as a warrior in Revelation?
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Exactly. God says HE will take care of vengeance for sin, and that it's not his childrens' job to try to punish sin, or to execute people or push them off of houses. Nowhere does Jesus advocate for his followers to kill people.Valerie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:13 pmYou have to try and understand each and every parable and situation he was teaching about.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:07 pm I notice Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery.
Do you forget who comes as a warrior in Revelation?
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I think you misunderstood Josh?ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:16 pmExactly. God says HE will take care of vengeance for sin, and that it's not his childrens' job to try to punish sin, or to execute people or push them off of houses. Nowhere does Jesus advocate for his followers to kill people.Valerie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:13 pmYou have to try and understand each and every parable and situation he was teaching about.ken_sylvania wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:07 pm I notice Jesus didn't stone the woman caught in adultery.
Do you forget who comes as a warrior in Revelation?
But Jesus is coming back with an army.
Also government was to use the sword- He was using man to execute judgement.
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