Video: A Lamp in the Dark

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Video: A Lamp in the Dark

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Youtube Trailer / 5 min.

A LAMP IN THE DARK


Youtube / 3 hours

A LAMP IN THE DARK: The Untold History of the Bible - Full Documentary


i’m about half through this video.
i’m not viewing, but listening as i walk about an hour in evenings.
i often rewind and listen to specially interesting parts, it will take me longer than 3 hours to complete.

it’s addressing different questions i’ve had, and lots of new info for me.
they speak to events that led up to Martin Luther, he did not appear in a vacuum.
they name the importance of Gutenberg’s “movable type” to ML’s timing and position in history.
i’d wondered about that for years. interesting to listen to this perspective.

i had to listen to, and repeat, the words Erasmus had, comparing Latin to Greek:
Erasmus:
“For we have in Latin only a few small streams and muddy puddles, while they have pure springs and rivers flowing in gold. I see that it is utter madness even to touch with the little finger that branch of theology that deals chiefly with the divine mysteries, unless one is also provided with the equipment of Greek.”
[As quoted in Martin Luther:
The Man Who Rediscovered God and Changed the World (2017)
by By Eric Metaxas, p. 85]
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Desiderius_Erasmus
The video covers so much on the history of Bible translations.

i’ll be rewinding and revisiting several times.
Eventually, i plan to view. After listening-only, i expect adding visuals will be compelling.

Thoughts?
Has anyone viewed/listened?
There are several youtube versions, this one might not be the best.
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i’m continuing with this video, altho still near the half-mark, i keep rewinding the parts between Erasmus (born 1466 Rotterdam-died 1536 Basel, Switzerland) and the Geneva Bible/the Pilgrims’ Bible (1557-1560 complete). :)

It causes me to think about MN member Adam, and his translation work in Papua, NG. :)

It’s hard to imagine a world in which most could not read.
These (Catholic men) who were determined to bring scriptures to everyone, at the highest personal effort, risk+price, brought reading to everyone. It’s humbling to attempt to imagine.

Reference from another source:
.. The name of this website is Tyndale’s Ploughboy.
It originates from an event that occurred in William Tyndale’s life when he was serving as a tutor for the children of Sir John and Lady Anne Walsh. Although the accounts of what took place vary in details, the basic outline is clear according to both Richard Webb and John Foxe.

Tyndale was engaged in a conversation with a fellow priest concerning the need for the Scriptures to be in the English language. At that time, because of the Oxford Constitutions enacted in the previous century, it was not permissible to own a copy of the Bible in the English language. Tyndale’s companion was not convinced of the need for the Scriptures in English. He is reported to have said that as long as people had the Bishop of Rome’s laws, the Scriptures were not needed.

To this Tyndale replied, “I defy the Pope and all his laws, if God spare my life, I will make a boy that driveth the plough know more of the Scripture than thou dost.”

Most individuals who comment on this statement seek to draw a parallel with the words of Erasmus who had expressed similar sentiments regarding the need and value of the Word of God in the vernacular tongue. Erasmus spoke of the weaver at his loom, the traveler on his journey and others who would be refreshed by the reading of God’s Word.

However, Tyndale’s statement goes far beyond what Erasmus expressed.
Tyndale did not only speak of the ploughboy having the Scripture in a familiar language but he also said that he would make him to know more of the Scripture than one who had been educated for the priesthood in the church.
Tyndale not only had the intention of translating the Scriptures but providing a means by which a person could understand what the Scriptures meant.

Why would Tyndale make such a statement?
In his introduction to the Books of Moses which was printed nearly seven years after he uttered those words, he provided insight into his purpose. He stated that it was impossible to establish the people in the Word of God unless they possessed them in the vernacular.
The key phrase is the establishment of the people.
Tyndale’s interest went far beyond providing the bare text of Scripture in the English language.
That was but the first step to teach the ploughboy to know more and become established in the Word of God, In Tyndale’s writings, he frequently used the word “key” in reference to the means of making the Scripture intelligible to the individual.

William Tyndale dedicated his life in order to furnish that key to the ploughboy. .. ..
https://www.tyndalesploughboy.org/about ... s-apology/
This is a difficult presentation for those who are defensive of Catholicism.
Some reviews are very critical.

i’ve not been able to find a transcript or text for the video. i hope to.
It covers so much ground, i want to READ it! :mrgreen:
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It’s not that these names+history all all new to me.
It’s the way the info is put together and presented, esp making connections between individuals who were contemporaries, how they communicated and studied, how they traveled, both voluntarily, and in exile, how they often helped one another and learned from one another.
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I finally got past the Pilgrims Bible.
Now in difficulty with Loyola. :-|
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temporal1 wrote:I finally got past the Pilgrims Bible.
Now in difficulty with Loyola. :-|
I‘m having so much trouble with Loyola, I had to search to see if the Catholic Church ever repented. Adding this to study.

“ When Popes Become Penitents:
The History of Papal Apologies”
https://www.history.com/news/when-popes ... -apologies
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i got through it. listening and walking. repeating various parts, sometimes several times.
i plan to view it, but listening-only has its own way.

it ended oddly. :?
then i realized, there is a sequel, “to be continued.” :mrgreen:

“Tares Among the Wheat: A sequel to A Lamp in the Dark” / 3 (more) hours :shock:


Well. not sure if i’ll continue. maybe. probably.

There is so much information. Most names are familiar, the history isn’t foreign. Putting it all together in this form is new for me. It increases respect for the dedication many men had to put it all together, and, really, over hundreds and hundreds of years - and continuing.

It’s not possible to know where we are with it in history. :shock:
We’re “here,” but where is here?

Still hoping to see it in print.
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temporal1 wrote:i got through it. listening and walking. repeating various parts, sometimes several times.
i plan to view it, but listening-only has its own way.

it ended oddly. :?
then i realized, there is a sequel, “to be continued.” :mrgreen:

“Tares Among the Wheat: A sequel to A Lamp in the Dark” / 3 (more) hours :shock:


Well. not sure if i’ll continue. maybe. probably.

There is so much information. Most names are familiar, the history isn’t foreign. Putting it all together in this form is new for me. It increases respect for the dedication many men had to put it all together, and, really, over hundreds and hundreds of years - and continuing.

It’s not possible to know where we are with it in history. :shock:
We’re “here,” but where is here?

Still hoping to see it in print.
2 months later .. i began listening to this sequel.
i was reluctant to begin, but i’m off to a good start. it is interesting.

there is so much (reformation) history BEFORE Luther and those of his period.
it really was “moveable type”/the printing press that made the big change (in what was in process long before).

the Waldensians, Albigensians, others, are named and described.
this is saying protestants/protesting began in the 600’s.

all of this is about where Protestants and Anabaptists came from.

i continue to wish for a transcript or book.
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temporal1 wrote:it really was “moveable type”/the printing press that made the big change (in what was in process long before).
It is not much of an exaggeration to divide the history of that era into B.G. and A.G. (Before and After Gutenberg), or of our own lifetimes into Before and After Gore.
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ohio jones wrote:
temporal1 wrote:it really was “moveable type”/the printing press that made the big change (in what was in process long before).
It is not much of an exaggeration to divide the history of that era into B.G. and A.G. (Before and After Gutenberg), or of our own lifetimes into Before and After Gore.
i must agree. :D
between the 2, tho, i believe Gutenberg was the more significant.
Gore’s internet took it from there. :P



i’m usually grateful for what i have, but, sometimes i wish i had a greater aptitude for understanding what’s in front of me. these videos leave my mind reeling with names, dates, events. there are so many parts.
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In the sequel, a fragment of text written in Greek by Matthew is mentioned. It’s believed to have been written WITHIN 15 YEARS of The Crucifixion. :shock:

i had no idea this existed. it sparks the imagination.

i found this link below. it’s not connected to the videos.
i have no idea what i found. i don’t intend to imply i do.
it’s interesting to read.

Bible Archaeology Report Bible Archaeology Report
FEBRUARY 15, 2019BRYAN WINDLE
The Earliest New Testament Manuscripts
https://biblearchaeologyreport.com/2019 ... nuscripts/
All of the books of the New Testament were written within a lifetime of the death of Jesus of Nazareth.

Not so the so-called “other gospels,” which were pseudepigraphical Gnostic works written 100-300 years later. To date we have over 5800 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament, with an astounding 2.6 million pages of biblical text.1
While some of these manuscripts are small and fragmentary, the average size of a New Testament manuscript is 450 pages.2
Add to this the ancient manuscripts in Latin, Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, etc. which number in the tens of thousands,3
and you realize that there is an embarrassment of riches when it comes to New Testament manuscripts.
No other ancient text can compare with the New Testament when it comes to the sheer volume of manuscripts, nor when we consider how close the earliest manuscripts are to the originals.

So what are the earliest New Testament manuscripts? ..
.. it continues ..
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