I mentioned that we visited Oasis Tabernacle (Sugarcreek OH) a couple of weeks ago-
They are having this 3 day event:
Was wondering your thoughts/opinions on this? We loved the message we heard when visiting- do you consider this a valid ministry?
3-Day preaching and praise event highlighting the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
JULY 26 Friday evening
7:00pm · Welcome
7:15pm · Oasis Singers
8:00pm · Waiting for the Promise · Reuben Beachy
JULY 27 Saturday
10:00am · The Necessity of the Holy Spirit · Andy Miller
11:00am · The Upper Room Atmosphere · Jason Schlabach
6:00pm · Oasis Singers
7:00pm · Walking in the Holy Spirit · Doug Nolt
8:00pm · The Baptism of the Holy Spirit · Reuben Beachy
JULY 28 Sunday
9:30am · Oasis Singers
10:30am · The Release of the Holy Spirit · Leroy Miller
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We attended last night. My husband & I both felt it was so much like being in our former denomination but in a much less worldy setting. The women wore coverings of some type, (our denomination did not), the men were dressed decently & respectfully (I realize this is all outward, but conveying the difference in the 'setting') and we appreciated what was said & taught. It's difficult when you come from decades of a belief in the Holy Spirit (as in the book of Acts & Corinthians) and then go to a denomination that denies the ministry/power/manifestation of the Holy Spirit-Valerie wrote:I mentioned that we visited Oasis Tabernacle (Sugarcreek OH) a couple of weeks ago-
They are having this 3 day event:
Was wondering your thoughts/opinions on this? We loved the message we heard when visiting- do you consider this a valid ministry?
3-Day preaching and praise event highlighting the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
JULY 26 Friday evening
7:00pm · Welcome
7:15pm · Oasis Singers
8:00pm · Waiting for the Promise · Reuben Beachy
JULY 27 Saturday
10:00am · The Necessity of the Holy Spirit · Andy Miller
11:00am · The Upper Room Atmosphere · Jason Schlabach
6:00pm · Oasis Singers
7:00pm · Walking in the Holy Spirit · Doug Nolt
8:00pm · The Baptism of the Holy Spirit · Reuben Beachy
JULY 28 Sunday
9:30am · Oasis Singers
10:30am · The Release of the Holy Spirit · Leroy Miller
To be honest, my husband is hesitant to go that direction-again- after seeing the direction of the more worldly Pentecostal Church today- but it was so refreshing to see an enthusiasm and belief that aligns with Scripture by a people who also obey all the other passages, & I suppose that would be because of their Anabaptist roots-
My main reason for wanting to go was to see the difference between mainstream Pentecostal/Charismatic- and one that was originally conservative Anabaptists who do believe in the gifts of the Holy Spirit for 'today'.
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Reuben Beachy (if the same one, wife's name is Linda) was a member at our congregation years ago, good friend of mine, but I don't bump into him much anymore. They went with the 'outreach' congregation where all three of our children now attend, then later moved on.
But speaking of Oasis Chapel - someone told me recently that the group that took over the small church house in Benton is a group from Oasis that wanted to go a bit different direction, more 'conservative', I think.
But speaking of Oasis Chapel - someone told me recently that the group that took over the small church house in Benton is a group from Oasis that wanted to go a bit different direction, more 'conservative', I think.
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I don't know that much about the Church history- it was just recommended to us years ago by a Beachy Amish Mennonite friend- his family lived in Arthur IL, we became acquainted via MAP Ministry as Ernie (our BA friend) wrote for MAP years ago- he apparently was into Wayne Weaver's ministry/messages-Neto wrote:Reuben Beachy (if the same one, wife's name is Linda) was a member at our congregation years ago, good friend of mine, but I don't bump into him much anymore. They went with the 'outreach' congregation where all three of our children now attend, then later moved on.
But speaking of Oasis Chapel - someone told me recently that the group that took over the small church house in Benton is a group from Oasis that wanted to go a bit different direction, more 'conservative', I think.
Pastor Weaver has a long history- apparently in Sarasota FL some time ago too- GC Donner of our MN forum used to be with his ministry if I remember right.
So I'm trying to understand what you mean by 'they wanted to go more conservative'- you mean in doctrine? Do you know what the differences are Neto? This was probably one of the most 'different' services I've attended in a long time- we don't hear preaching on the baptism of the Holy Spirit- where I am 'from' for decades it was a common belief. There were a lot of people at last night's meeting (which was 4 hours!) that were older than us, and really- all ages- to see older people that had obvious Mennonite or Amish past (by appearance) I must say was unusual-but the praise & worship was uplifting-
The teaching- we hadn't heard people talk about prophecy, tongues or visions for quite some time having left Pentecostal- it really does put one in the position of 'testing the spirits' and I thought how easy it is to dismiss rather than test. Your friend spoke last night- I imagine a lot of folks would find it difficult to agree with his belief but it was all grounded in Scripture- the gifts- but apparently it has cost him.
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The person who told me didn't give specifics. I had been asking around about who took over that old church house in Benton, and that is all I was told.
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Different guy, I think; this one's bio is here.Neto wrote:Reuben Beachy (if the same one, wife's name is Linda)
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How did you know which Reuben Beachy was the speaker at Oasis Tabernacle?ohio jones wrote:Different guy, I think; this one's bio is here.Neto wrote:Reuben Beachy (if the same one, wife's name is Linda)
(thanks for the bio, it caused me to read all the bio's on that site- I experienced a couple red flags among the group- wonder if they all have to be of the same mind in that group?)
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Leroy Miller is the pastor at Bethesda Christian Fellowship, where Steve Stutzman is overseer. Leroy Miller hosts Youth Alive, a weekend youth rally. I watched the livestream recently, and it didn't appear much different from any other evangelical youth rally. A few of the girls wore head coverings, but the majority didn't. One of the speakers was a young woman with no headcovering, jewelry, wearing pants. I don't think it's possible to marry conservative Anabaptism and charismatic Christianity.
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Hey, I know things, and I know people, and I know things about people. But in this case, as far as I know, Reuben is the only direct link between HPIM and the Oasis network.Valerie wrote:How did you know which Reuben Beachy was the speaker at Oasis Tabernacle?
(thanks for the bio, it caused me to read all the bio's on that site- I experienced a couple red flags among the group- wonder if they all have to be of the same mind in that group?)
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Can you please post the link to what you saw? A lot of youth may have invited unchurched friends- so I wouldn't be sure they abstain from teaching to cover. At Oasis Tabernacle, almost all women cover, I didn't see any pants or jewelry on women, although I wasn't there to look for/at such things but to be there to learn & find out what they teach on the Ministry of the Holy Spirit. And to join in praise & worship of GodQuietObserver wrote:Leroy Miller is the pastor at Bethesda Christian Fellowship, where Steve Stutzman is overseer. Leroy Miller hosts Youth Alive, a weekend youth rally. I watched the livestream recently, and it didn't appear much different from any other evangelical youth rally. A few of the girls wore head coverings, but the majority didn't. One of the speakers was a young woman with no headcovering, jewelry, wearing pants. I don't think it's possible to marry conservative Anabaptism and charismatic Christianity.
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