Are court rulings moderating?

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Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both conservative judges.

Gorsuch wasn't anywhere near as controversial as Kavanaugh. The process was not as controversial either. There's a difference here that is not about Democrats versus Republicans. And it's not all about the nuclear option, either - it was already in place for Gorsuch.

Kavanaugh raised concerns that Gorsuch did not.
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Bootstrap wrote:Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are both conservative judges.

Gorsuch wasn't anywhere near as controversial as Kavanaugh. The process was not as controversial either. There's a difference here that is not about Democrats versus Republicans. And it's not all about the nuclear option, either - it was already in place for Gorsuch.

Kavanaugh raised concerns that Gorsuch did not.
Other than the sexual misconduct allegations against Kavanaugh do you believe he was more controversial than Gorsuch?
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GaryK wrote:Other than the sexual misconduct allegations against Kavanaugh do you believe he was more controversial than Gorsuch?
Let me answer this in a new thread. I continue to think "General Theology" is the wrong place to discuss this kind of politics ;->
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Was happy to see this ruling. :)
Kevlin Cochran, fired fire chief
http://www.adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/9520

This was a report from before the ruling
https://www.firehouse.com/leadership/ne ... ghter-news
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A smaller case, Santa Barbara City College, California:

How a prof who lost his job for being conservative ..
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/10/19/ ... k-and-won/
.. McIntire said he believes the negative teaching evaluations and harassment claims were rooted in a bias against his political beliefs:

“I was fired because of a disease.
The clinical name for this disease is ‘Acute Social Justice Warrior Campusitis.’

The particular pathogen on the SBCC campus is the #MeToo tribal feminism that fired me because I was the only faculty member with the grit to [publicly] defend opposing views of conservatives, Trump voters, religious, libertarian, and home-schooled individuals.” ..
i’m not sure i have a good grasp of this report, but, the general theme of court rulings moderating (on conservatives) is the interest of this thread.
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The net effect of this is conservatives pulling out of higher education. If liberals want people to be “well educated”, they’d better decide to stop turning universities into their own private temples to their bizarre state-corporate religion.
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Josh wrote:The net effect of this is conservatives pulling out of higher education.
If liberals want people to be “well educated”, they’d better decide to stop turning universities into their own private temples to their bizarre state-corporate religion.
Just noticed this. Agreed.
There is no evidence the desire is for good education. In its place, thorough indoctrination. :(
Beginning in the earliest years.

This week, a court case in St Louis, MO:
Lesbian Couple Sued Religious Retirement Home For Denying Them. They Lost.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/42350/le ... -paul-bois
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Alabama courts are shaking things up. :)
Georgia’s “heartbeat” bill has been in headlines, too, angering hollywood.

“Alabama Senate passes bill that bans nearly all abortions, sending it to the governor's desk”
https://www.theblaze.com/news/alabama-s ... rnors-desk

The Alabama governor must sign.
.. Mothers who get abortions would not be prosecuted under this law.
Those who perform abortions would be criminally charged and could face between 10 and 99 years in prison if convicted.

This bill, which goes even further toward banning abortion than Georgia's pro-life "heartbeat" abortion law, is another attempt to force the issue of abortion before the Supreme Court with the aim of weakening or overturning Roe v. Wade. ..
My 2 cents: :)
It’s completely logical for Roe vs Wade to be revisited, considering medical science progress made since 1973, including real-time medical science photography.
When such leaps of science are made, of course this justifies formal revisitation of prior court decisions, especially in cases of human life or death.
For instance, there is no statute of limitation on murder cases.

The Alabama ruling is logical and desirable for an educated society that offers never-before choices in prevention and control of conception;
alongside never-before public availability of medical science, including medical science real-time photography, no one need claim ignorance!
This is what true personal empowerment is! No victims.
True choice is prevention of violence perpetrated on authentic innocents.

i have no idea if Roe versus Wade would be overturned. i take nothing for granted.
i hear the screams, i see the panic. media lives for hysteria.

Revisiting with current science seems warranted. To deliberately and emotionally ignore/refuse to consider new science, esp in human life+death cases, runs against the grain of any definition of reason.

“Georgia governor signs ‘heartbeat bill,’
giving the state one of the most restrictive abortion laws in the nation”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html
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Josh wrote:The net effect of this is conservatives pulling out of higher education.
If liberals want people to be “well educated”, they’d better decide to stop turning universities into their own private temples to their bizarre state-corporate religion. :(
Libs want people to be “thoroughly indoctrinated,” not well educated. Big difference. :-|

O.and. :-|
Indoctrination no longer has anything much to do with universities. Universities now expect incoming freshmen to be thoroughly indoctrinated upon arrival. 12+ years devoted to getting there.

In Illinois, the people had the nerve to vote for a (supposedly) Republican governor in 2014.
Governor Rauner. He was not conservative, he signed off on many Dem bills, including expansion of abortion, and other policies.

Much like DJT has experienced for 2+ years, on the state level, Gov Rauner was nonstop attacked, and ignored, for 4 years by Chicago politicians and their complicit media, with Chicago media satellites now throughout the state. The irony being, Gov Rauner was “one of them,” he just carried “the wrong political label.”

Rauner was a 1-term governor, in his 4 years, he betrayed his base, AND netted NOTHING-NOTHING from his willingness to compromise with Chicago Dems.

So, since January 2019, Illinois’ new Dem governor has been on a frenetic race to the bottom to willy-nilly raise taxes, and to establish every unwanted social policy Dems can dream up, pirating the Public Treasury to accomplish these goals. Oddly ignoring the state is supposedly teetering on bankruptcy.

Illinois is not moderating, and it’s pretty awful.
For the wise, it could serve as a proverbial “canary in the coal mine,” for other states.


This is a tough read. It is no small or confined matter: :arrow:

“Illinois Human Rights Commission Mandates Co-Ed Locker Rooms in Public Schools”
https://illinoisfamily.org/homosexualit ... c-schools/
.. Private spaces become symbolic tools for affirming a delusion. ..
.. Can’t leave any words behind in the wake of the “trans” revolution that suggest the human species is sexually binary. No, siree, that won’t do at all.

“Trans”-cultists aren’t just inventing new pronouns to reflect their sex-erased world.
In true Orwellian fashion, they’re also redefining existing words to erase all prior traces of a world that embraced reality. George Orwell warned us what this kind of language control is intended to do in his description of Newspeak:

”The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of IngSoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible.
It was intended that when Newspeak had been adopted once and for all… a heretical thought… should be literally unthinkable, at least so far as thought is dependent on words….
This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever….

[T]he special function of certain Newspeak words… was not so much to express meanings as to destroy them…. [W]ords which had once borne a heretical meaning were sometimes retained for the sake of convenience, but only with the undesirable meanings purged out of them.”
:( :(

How long before “trans”-cultists decide that “transwoman” is an epithet and must be banned?
After all, they have proclaimed that men who masquerade as women are women. What if they decide that “transwoman”—which implies a distinction between fake-women and real women—is offensive and must be banned?

And who among us will resist sexually integrated private spaces and Newspeak mandates when the government tells us resistance is futile?
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”Dems' Emoluments Clause lawsuit against Trump hits major roadblock, as judge rules law 'unsettled' “
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/distri ... -unsettled
.. Democrats also requested an immediate injunction barring Trump from making money on his international businesses,
noting that the Trump Organization has already established a “voluntary procedure by which [it] identifies and donates to the U.S. Treasury profits from foreign government patronage at its hotels and similar businesses." .. ..

Instead, Sullivan allowed Trump the rare opportunity to pursue a so-called interlocutory, or mid-case, appeal, given the “substantial ground for difference of opinion" on whether the Democrats can even sue the president on Emoluments Clause grounds.

Until the appellate courts resolve the larger legal question at issue, Sullivan halted all discovery in the district court case.

"The Court will also stay proceedings in this case pending the interlocutory appeal," Sullivan said.

DCD Emoluments Order 8 21 19 (1) by Fox News on Scribd
“UNSETTLED” law is a key word.
It seems, gone are the days of “laws passed, laws written in stone.”
Today, every law, new or established, can be tested in courts, some granted appeal after appeal.
Judges seem to have become highly politicized, not the original plan.

Law school graduates are crippling the U.S., doing everything they learn n law schools, LITIGATE.

Interesting how lawyers “do nothing,” build nothing, create nothing, provide no goods or services.
They do paperwork, and litigate what everyone else tries to do. They remove citizens’ rights and increase taxes. Because they can. It’s all they know.

Somehow, i dream of a time when law schools will be put out of business, insteading of THRIVNG as they long have been. The world is overloaded with human law, it’s ‘way out of balance.

Much as it was when Jesus walked n earth.

Evidently, dems have lots of lawsuits initiated against DJT. :-|

It seems, “anything-but 1 honest day’s work out of Congress.” :-|
Approval rating for Congress has been very low for many years. They show no concern for this, at all.
They appear arrogant and self-satisfied.
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