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Heirbyadoption wrote: I'd be very interested too, as Ernie's initial concern would hold true for Max too regarding involvement in the SG18. But...Max does have a tendency to answer questions rather selectively, so I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Heir, I answer questions that are sincere and aren't trying to bash or pick a fight. Some individuals I have blocked for that reason because they continue in a highly uncharitable manner and do not listen to answers.

For the record we don't believe we are OTC. Vat 2 changed the wording to clarify. We believe we are in apostolic succession from the original apostles which is a different concept altogether. That said, if I or another Catholic were interested in attending the SG18, we would only do so with permission of the organizers. If they would be uncomfortable with our presence, then we would not argue, whine or otherwise dispute their guidelines. Instead we would respectfully accept their concerns and not attend.

Once Again wrote:It is very unusual for members of the CoC to attend non CoC religious gatherings. My guess is they read some of the writings of David Bercot or Finny Kuruvilla and got interested in the Kingdom Chirstian movement. Most of CoC theology is compatible with the Kingdom Christian movement; it is the lifestyle practices where the CoC fails badly.

To be clear, people like from the Boston group or from CoC or ICoC backgrounds who attend AIC aren’t generally in a CoC congregation anymore. Whilst they like Anabaptism, they generally seek to convert Anabaptists to their specific beliefs (full immersion, salvation is only via full immersion, a specific form of evangelising, and belief that the one true church can be identified by full immersion and belief in salvation via full immersion).

MaxPC wrote:

Once Again wrote:It is very unusual for members of the CoC to attend non CoC religious gatherings. My guess is they read some of the writings of David Bercot or Finny Kuruvilla and got interested in the Kingdom Chirstian movement. Most of CoC theology is compatible with the Kingdom Christian movement; it is the lifestyle practices where the CoC fails badly.

Thank you, that makes sense. So their intent is not to proselytize?

I wonder if Charity type churches attend these events or do they stay "closer to home" so to speak?

KFW started as a Charity event and still has a very strong Charity identity.

Josh wrote:

Once Again wrote:It is very unusual for members of the CoC to attend non CoC religious gatherings. My guess is they read some of the writings of David Bercot or Finny Kuruvilla and got interested in the Kingdom Chirstian movement. Most of CoC theology is compatible with the Kingdom Christian movement; it is the lifestyle practices where the CoC fails badly.

To be clear, people like from the Boston group or from CoC or ICoC backgrounds who attend AIC aren’t generally in a CoC congregation anymore. Whilst they like Anabaptism, they generally seek to convert Anabaptists to their specific beliefs (full immersion, salvation is only via full immersion, a specific form of evangelising, and belief that the one true church can be identified by full immersion and belief in salvation via full immersion).

Is there anyone from these mentioned groups on here that can confirm these generalizations?And is there anyone who can we trust as a qualfied spokesman for everyone in any group?

Wade wrote:

Josh wrote:

Once Again wrote:It is very unusual for members of the CoC to attend non CoC religious gatherings. My guess is they read some of the writings of David Bercot or Finny Kuruvilla and got interested in the Kingdom Chirstian movement. Most of CoC theology is compatible with the Kingdom Christian movement; it is the lifestyle practices where the CoC fails badly.

To be clear, people like from the Boston group or from CoC or ICoC backgrounds who attend AIC aren’t generally in a CoC congregation anymore. Whilst they like Anabaptism, they generally seek to convert Anabaptists to their specific beliefs (full immersion, salvation is only via full immersion, a specific form of evangelising, and belief that the one true church can be identified by full immersion and belief in salvation via full immersion).

Is there anyone from these mentioned groups on here that can confirm these generalizations?And is there anyone who can we trust as a qualfied spokesman for everyone in any group?

I've spoken to Matthew a few times, he seems like a decent guy but I haven't got into these specific questions with him. He didn't try to convert me to his way of thinking. With that being said, I know several people that will not see eye to eye with FotW over DR but would be almost the same (at least based on the sermons) with similar thinking. I'd say they by in large are anti-Mennonite doctrine, but not anti-Mennonite. Hopefully that difference makes sense.

Soloist wrote:I'd say they by in large are anti-Mennonite doctrine, but not anti-Mennonite. Hopefully that difference makes sense.

I'm curious what that means.

mike wrote:

Soloist wrote:I'd say they by in large are anti-Mennonite doctrine, but not anti-Mennonite. Hopefully that difference makes sense.

I'm curious what that means.

They like the people in the Mennonite churches, they think they are sincere but believe them to be misled or in legalism and cannot support the doctrines they would hold. Its more then that, but thats a basic idea.

mike wrote:

Soloist wrote:I'd say they by in large are anti-Mennonite doctrine, but not anti-Mennonite. Hopefully that difference makes sense.

I'm curious what that means.

I think that means that they disagree with some our our teachings, but still have a soft spot for Mennonite people. In their opinion we are just a little misguided but we mean well.

RZehr wrote:In their opinion we are just a little misguided but we mean well.

And I feel similarly about them which is why I count them as friends.

Ernie wrote:

RZehr wrote:In their opinion we are just a little misguided but we mean well.

And I feel similarly about them which is why I count them as friends.

Does this mean when Mennonites call outsiders "friends" that it is sign of disapproval?