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Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:58 pm
by Judas Maccabeus
Hats Off wrote:There is also a Weaverland Martindale district as well as a Groffdale. And now there is an Old Order one in Ontario.
Really? But in the company he was talking about there, the Lancaster Martindale conference is what he was almost certainly referring to. It is similar to us in practice.

J.M.

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:56 pm
by Josh
Once Again wrote:
Josh wrote:Yes.


Which ones?
Every church has some things that are left to personal conviction, some which are definitely rules but are unwritten, and some which are rules which are clearly written down.

Some churches have written rules that everyone knows they don’t actually follow.

This is human nature. People are not rigid rule following robots. If you want a clearly defined system, study computers...

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:58 pm
by ohio jones
YorkandAdams wrote:CMC churches that require head-covering (Martindale District)
Try this:
CMC churches that require head-covering
LMC churches that require head-covering (Martindale District)

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:01 am
by KingdomBuilder
One thing I haven't seen much of anything on is swimming... Is that a thing for CA's??? Just a pointless little question I've wondered. (not trying to bunny trail.. a simple answer will suffice. Just didn't want to create a whole thread for such a little thing)

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:00 am
by Josh
KingdomBuilder wrote:One thing I haven't seen much of anything on is swimming... Is that a thing for CA's??? Just a pointless little question I've wondered. (not trying to bunny trail.. a simple answer will suffice. Just didn't want to create a whole thread for such a little thing)
Most of us don’t engage in “mixed bathing”.

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:37 am
by Hats Off
KingdomBuilder wrote:One thing I haven't seen much of anything on is swimming... Is that a thing for CA's??? Just a pointless little question I've wondered. (not trying to bunny trail.. a simple answer will suffice. Just didn't want to create a whole thread for such a little thing)
We have a rule "No mixed swimming" and it is discouraged for the girls to go swimming at all.

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:51 am
by steve-in-kville
Hats Off wrote:We have a rule "No mixed swimming" and it is discouraged for the girls to go swimming at all.
And I bet if you do go swimming you have to wear a T-shirt. Am I right?

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:19 am
by KingdomBuilder
"Mixed" meaning all male-female interactions? Or is household an exception?

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:56 am
by Josh
KingdomBuilder wrote:"Mixed" meaning all male-female interactions? Or is household an exception?
It’s a grey area. For young children it’s more acceptable. More conservative churches wouldn’t allow older brothers and sisters to mixed-swim.

Re: Question about Church Standards

Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:00 am
by Josh
steve-in-kville wrote:
Hats Off wrote:We have a rule "No mixed swimming" and it is discouraged for the girls to go swimming at all.
And I bet if you do go swimming you have to wear a T-shirt. Am I right?
Depends. If you’re by yourself, no shirts and shorts might be ok... (same goes for working on a job site on a very hot day if nobody is around who can see you and the crew is all guys).

When I was at Dead Sea I wore a surf shirt called a “rash guard”. I carry one with me in travel for any impromptu aquatic activities.

Generally speaking, for guys the greatest concern is being around immodestly dressed women. So we just avoid those situations. A lake or the ocean usually works OK. A public pool does not.

For girls we discourage them being in public in swimsuits unless they have complete privacy. So sometimes at a resort on vacation is fine if they have the place to themselves. Likewise on a desert beach at the ocean where nobody else is around.

More conservative groups discourage girls from swimming for recreation at all once they are older.