Are Plain Catholics Anabaptists?

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Are Plain Catholics Anabaptists?

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MaxPC wrote:Both the Schleitheim and Dordrecht confessions share common theological ground with our theology. Both are excellent.
Given the fact that Anabaptism was a reaction against Rome, and that the Schleitheim confession explicitly condemns certain Roman practices, I would like to know, from people familiar with the Plain Catholic movement, what common theological ground they have with the Dortrecht and Schleitheim confessions.
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Interesting question, Wayne as neither group is exactly the same as they were 500 years. What are your goals for this question?
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MaxPC wrote:Interesting question, Wayne as neither group is exactly the same as they were 500 years. What are your goals for this question?
We have many long threads where you ask detailed questions about various Anabaptist groups, and we give you straightforward answers to these questions, usually without questioning your motivation for asking the questions.

Why not respond to us the same way? When you evade questions or even attack people for asking them, that raises questions. We have been asking some of these questions for years. Simple, straightforward answers are helpful for establishing trust.

You told us you found both of these confessions excellent - and those confessions are the same as they were 500 years ago, they have not been rewritten. Do you agree with everything they say? If not, what exactly is it that you identify with in them, and how do you relate that to your Catholic faith? Anabaptism is a word that refers to adult believer baptism, rejecting infant baptism. Do you think of Plain Catholics as Anabaptists? If not, what parts of the Schleitheim confession do you identify with, and why?
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Wayne, I will really be shocked if any of the aforementioned questions are answered but I wouldn't mind looking at these confessions out of curiosity. Do you know of a link(s) to these for easy reading ?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dordrecht ... n_of_Faith
gameo.org/index.php?title=Dordrecht_Confession_of_Faith_(Mennonite,_1632)
home.mennonitechurch.ca/1632-Dordrecht
baptiststudiesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/.../the-schleitheim-confession-2.pd...
thecommonlife.com.au/rainham/wp-content/uploads/.../1-Schleitheim-Confession.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleitheim_Confession
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I looked up Plain Catholics and found instructions on kapp making. The pictures show people dressed in Amish style. Interesting.
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Hats Off wrote:I looked up Plain Catholics and found instructions on kapp making. The pictures show people dressed in Amish style. Interesting.
Try doing a Google image search on the images on their website.
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I did a google search and ended up with pictures of women wearing kapps but also of clergy wearing such a long robe or mantel that they need one person just to carry it. Incredible pictures of incredible worship! In the most ceremonies and uniforms, there is absolutely nothing to compare with Anabaptists.
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Hats Off wrote:I did a google search and ended up with pictures of women wearing kapps but also of clergy wearing such a long robe or mantel that they need one person just to carry it. Incredible pictures of incredible worship! In the most ceremonies and uniforms, there is absolutely nothing to compare with Anabaptists.
Now take any one of those images of women wearing kapps, or the images of homes or furniture, or any other image of Plain Catholics that looks Mennonite or Amish, and try fact checking the photo the same way you would a suspicious viral photo:

Fact Check that Viral Photo in Two Clicks
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Hats Off wrote:I did a google search and ended up with pictures of women wearing kapps but also of clergy wearing such a long robe or mantel that they need one person just to carry it. Incredible pictures of incredible worship! In the most ceremonies and uniforms, there is absolutely nothing to compare with Anabaptists.
The worship service of the ancient Churches, or more liturgical services, are supposed to be patterned after the heavenly worship- that is why you see it this way- I would not be good at conveying all of this, but the idea of liturgical worship in the early church had a lot to do with heavenly worship, and liturgical worship had it's roots in Judaism but the pattern in appearance & liturgy continued but in Spirit and Truth- with Christ being the head of the Church :
Hebrews 12:
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, 23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
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