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All I remember was Shirksville and Swatara are basically next to each other, but they were two different districts.... and there was some strange rivalry between the two. Friendly in nature, but weird.
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steve-in-kville wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:23 pm All I remember was Shirksville and Swatara are basically next to each other, but they were two different districts.... and there was some strange rivalry between the two. Friendly in nature, but weird.
Huh???? What two districts?
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And the one that Shirksville was in had the Florida (Pensecola?) in it. Made total sense.
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ken_sylvania wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:33 pm [quote=steve-in-kville post_id=230505 time=<a href="tel:1713975794">1713975794</a> user_id=166]
All I remember was Shirksville and Swatara are basically next to each other, but they were two different districts.... and there was some strange rivalry between the two. Friendly in nature, but weird.

Wife: Probably something to do with volleyball or baseball.

In all seriousness, they at least currently are both pilgrim, so maybe they just had different overseeing bishops. Closer connections with other pilgrim churches might just be as simple as everyone being related.
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Judas Maccabeus wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:14 amAnd distant leaders are likely to be perceived as illegitimate, since they have no relationship with the people they purport to lead.
Unless hierarchy is built into your model of church, like the Anglicans, Catholics, Orthodox, Methodists, and some Anabaptists.
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Ernie wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:27 pm
Judas Maccabeus wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 10:14 amAnd distant leaders are likely to be perceived as illegitimate, since they have no relationship with the people they purport to lead.
Unless hierarchy is built into your model of church, like the Anglicans, Catholics, Orthodox, Methodists, and some Anabaptists.
In our circles, the Bishop is by once a month. I do not see how it would work otherwise. We are about 45 mins drive away.

When I was in a C&MA church, we went years without any contact with the district superintendent. I guess he did not wonder when, at a critical meeting, no one addressed him.

More or less people pretended he was not there. I was pinned in the sound room, and did not see him.
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Soloist wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:17 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:33 pm [quote=steve-in-kville post_id=230505 time=<a href="tel:1713975794">1713975794</a> user_id=166]
All I remember was Shirksville and Swatara are basically next to each other, but they were two different districts.... and there was some strange rivalry between the two. Friendly in nature, but weird.

Wife: Probably something to do with volleyball or baseball.

In all seriousness, they at least currently are both pilgrim, so maybe they just had different overseeing bishops. Closer connections with other pilgrim churches might just be as simple as everyone being related.
Apparently, if I remember right, Swatara was more lenient on standards on what cars that members can own. And the Shirksville folks considered them liberals because of it. I took it to be all in good fun at the time.
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steve-in-kville wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:24 am
Soloist wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:17 pm
ken_sylvania wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:33 pm [quote=steve-in-kville post_id=230505 time=<a href="tel:1713975794">1713975794</a> user_id=166]
All I remember was Shirksville and Swatara are basically next to each other, but they were two different districts.... and there was some strange rivalry between the two. Friendly in nature, but weird.

Wife: Probably something to do with volleyball or baseball.

In all seriousness, they at least currently are both pilgrim, so maybe they just had different overseeing bishops. Closer connections with other pilgrim churches might just be as simple as everyone being related.
Apparently, if I remember right, Swatara was more lenient on standards on what cars that members can own. And the Shirksville folks considered them liberals because of it. I took it to be all in good fun at the time.
Wife: maybe at some point. There are standards against sports cars and your truck can only have so many bells and whistles. Both churches are under the same standard, but different ministers probably choose different times to address someone. I’m thinking they’ll be in the same conference with the change, but someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
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Soloist wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:05 am
steve-in-kville wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:24 am
Soloist wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:17 pm


Wife: Probably something to do with volleyball or baseball.

In all seriousness, they at least currently are both pilgrim, so maybe they just had different overseeing bishops. Closer connections with other pilgrim churches might just be as simple as everyone being related.
Apparently, if I remember right, Swatara was more lenient on standards on what cars that members can own. And the Shirksville folks considered them liberals because of it. I took it to be all in good fun at the time.
Wife: maybe at some point. There are standards against sports cars and your truck can only have so many bells and whistles. Both churches are under the same standard, but different ministers probably choose different times to address someone. I’m thinking they’ll be in the same conference with the change, but someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
Keep in mind this was nearly 30 years ago and the EPMC/PMC split was only a year or two before this. But yes, the car issue most likely stemmed from what ministry actually enforced or even preached on.
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steve-in-kville wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:14 am
Soloist wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:05 am
steve-in-kville wrote: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:24 am

Apparently, if I remember right, Swatara was more lenient on standards on what cars that members can own. And the Shirksville folks considered them liberals because of it. I took it to be all in good fun at the time.
Wife: maybe at some point. There are standards against sports cars and your truck can only have so many bells and whistles. Both churches are under the same standard, but different ministers probably choose different times to address someone. I’m thinking they’ll be in the same conference with the change, but someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
Keep in mind this was nearly 30 years ago and the EPMC/PMC split was only a year or two before this. But yes, the car issue most likely stemmed from what ministry actually enforced or even preached on.
Wife: OK, that makes more sense. that’s way before my time, although they’ve come a long way since then, if boys’ trucks are any indicator. :lol:
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